What is Kairi!?

I'm about to get flamed.

Kairi is useless..
I'll explain why..

In the first game lets list the 3 main characters
Riku, a character who is proactive, seen moving around. Key point to the plot.
Sora, the main character, the players avatar and the person the player connects with
and then we have.....

Kairi: Yes, the wonderful PoH, but there is a flaw. Even in Kingdom Hearts she never contributed much. What did she do? Get her heart ejected from her body, that got placed in our skinny gullible hero's body.
She is only relevant for what she is, not who she is. She could not have had a name, she still would have been relevant for just one thing. Thats her PoHness, granted that she did save sora from being a heartless. Which was sort of her fault that he was in the first place, but thats it.

In kingdom hearts 2, what was her grand plan? Get captured and be more annoying and troublesome and get in the way, and have RIku give me a keyblade so I think im cool. Useless.

Yet, they do try to make her relevant by trying to give her a keyblade. Which, I was not really happy about. Yeah, she hit two heartless with a flower, but why? Why does everyone need a keyblade. In the first game the keyblade was a weapon of destruction. Now a princess has a flower one...really destructive stuff. Then SPOILER they tried to make her look cool at the end of KH3D by having riku grab her for training. I was pissed..
why does she need to fight. Stay home before you get captured little girl.

Now, lets start on her back story. In KH1, she had potential she had a backstory. We could have connected with her more, but for some unknown reason they stopped. She never once questioned where she came from again. That was a chance to have us, the players, connect with what she had went through. Just poor job on that, but I think even if they did. It would have just added more confusion to the story line.

 

Isn't Kairi supposed to have a bigger role in Kingdom Hearts 3?

 

@Waxlord Hopefully

@Kitty and Abstract (Flames both of you to death). Just kidding. But I completely disagree with you Abstract about Kairi. She is WHAT and WHO she is. Also, trying to blame Kairi for something which is not even her fault or Sora's (It is Sora's fault for giving up his heart and the destruction of their island and world is something that is not to their to blame. Also, it is not Kairi's fault for even being a POH. She did not even ask for it and was most likely unknown to her that she was one to even begin with) is irrelevant to me.

And as for KH2, you are 100% wrong for saying that she had a "grand plan". Not once it was her idea to get captured. OH wow. It is right there. She is saying, "Let me go!" but she is actually saying "OK AXEL! Take meh! OH WOW! A blue haired dude! STEAL ME TOO! I love to be the kidnappee!" That's bull Abstract. Sorry but I am saying it the way I am reading and speculating on this.

And as for you Kitty, NONE of the other POH are capable of stepping into the role that Kairi is capable of doing. Why should it be the others?

1. They have NO connections to Sora AT ALL or have some sort of relationship with him or even Riku for that matter.

2. Another plot to think on is that Kairi is the ONLY POH to be used by Xehanort to try to find the keyblade wielder, which led her to Destiny Island. She was essential for that and if you play BBS, you would understand this the most but from the lack of you not having the game (Yes. I went there), it is understandable to see that you would not have known that Aqua's protection spell was the one that obviously led Kairi to Destiny Island to Sora and Riku.

3. Out of all of the POH, Kairi was the main person to be targeted the most. For that, it is crucial for her to have the training needed. We can all see from Birth by Sleep to now that she has been targeted as a child with the Unverse, to being sent into the Lanes in Between, kidnapped in KH, Axel trying to get Kairi so that he can take her to Sora (Which is where I can make another argument on this), getting kidnapped again by Saix, doing her best with Namine to prepare to go against Saix when they were confronted by him, her nobody, Namine being the center of attention in Chain of Memories and the beginning of KH2, how can you NOT say that Kairi needs training?

4. Since she has ties with Sora, Riku and the others the most, it is obvious that she will be saught. In KH2, Saix said that they wanted to get her so that they can have Sora to lose his focus and to carry out their plans. By giving her the training, she will be able to stand on her own and will finally be able to rely more than her bold and determined personality to get by.

5. And back to Axel getting Kairi. If he were to successfully take Kairi to Sora, then that may give us a chance to play as Kairi (Or just to have her as an ally or something. I don't know).

To me, I still think that the two of you are more bothered about Kairi getting a keyblade and that she is going to fight than just story plot. "Poorly written from the beginning"? Nope. I like how she was crucial as a POH and I like how Namine came into the picture. "KH2 with her having a keyblade"? Yea. I can see why it is disturbing. IF they can explain it some more in KH3, then that will be alright.

 

First off, I do not know why "status" should even be an issue. A status of being a POH is not as bothersome as a status or importance of how many people (Or the max limit) of people could actually have a keyblade. It is like saying (For those who know Naruto) that a status of being a kage (Hokage in Leaf Village, different-prefix kage title in another) is just as bothersome as a status of carrying a tailed beast within (Or trying to have a max limit on how many people could actually have a tailed beast within).

I am finding your arguments just as ineffectual myself. The fact that Kairi's role of being:

1. Driving force in KH1 for Sora and Riku to even explore the worlds that the three dreamt about doing in the first place and we, the game players, didn't even know about POH until somewhere in the middle of the game.

2. Kairi's backstory of her childhood and stories on light and darkness.

3. The supporting force of having a relationship with Sora and their discussions,

Need I say more? I can rant on and on as much to my heart's content. Why, let me touch on some of the things that you said.


1. SE did not want to use Final Fantasy characters for POH. Otherwise, they did not even need Disney's help at all and it would be a whole, different ball game. But SE did not and seeing Selphie's personality, I don't really think so. -.- What would a jump rope would do in a heartless fight anyway, especially since she trips on her sandals.

2. Kairi supports the characters indirectly and through what has been happening through her backstory. It is like talking about how Jenova in FFVII supports the main plot through her/it's backstory even if some of it is clouded in mystery. In Kairi's backstory, her coming to Sora and Riku is what actually spark the interest of leaving the other worlds in the first place. Without her, the two would not have as much interest as they did as we know Kingdom Hearts now. Kairi is also the one who help Sora show that "Ansem" is Riku. Not going to go on about this.

3. And you are saying that Kairi did not have as much of a relationship with Sora like Namine or even the fact that Sora and Kairi do have a bond with each other? That is some bull to me. I do not even have to throw examples for this one.

Ok then! Let me hold back for a moment. Let us say, in Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix, that SE actually do something for once. That before they release KH 3, that the reason why Kairi is chosen to fight, that everything that we are debating about right now will be in the remixes. Let us say that Kairi may be playable in the HD Remix at Hollow Bastion only (In my mind, we play as her before we control Sora as a heartless or it will be just to play as Kairi temporarily) and let us say that we play as Kairi once again, to see her leaving Traverse Town for her to even reach Sora (I am still trying to figure out how she met up with Sora at the end to begin with). WHOO HOO! You finally get to see Kairi in action! What? Still not convinced?

"How did she fought in the first place?!" Oh wow. It is like we need to see actual training. Let us see the training of Shion Uzuki from Xenosaga as to how she can even fight with a big machine on her arm. Let us see how Aerith can even fight with a skinny, long pogo stick. Let us see how Serah in FFX-2 can even fight with a bow and not have terrible accuracy. Give us a backstory for that. Let us see, let us see, let us frickin frickin' see. That is what I am looking at all of this right now. It's as we do not like to imagine as to how a person was able to fight or many other possibilities that I can go on and on about.

But aside from that, let us think if they were to make a KH 2.5 HD remix (Most likely that they will) and they want to have Kairi playable for a bit as to where as she was escaping Axel, she ran into the nobodies and she fought them alongside Pluto as a party member or if we were to play as Kairi temporarily with Riku as a party member against the shadows "Oh wow. *Claps* She did something... but I still do not like the idea of her having a keyblade or why she even had one. I didn't play Birth by Sleep though "

And then, after going through the remixes, they then show Kairi in KH3. "Oh wow. She fight even better... but I still don't like it." As of right now, this is pointless to even go on and on about whether Kairi should fight or not, if her role is important, or anythign that we can all rant on and on and never come to a conclusion. Using her backstory to give an interest about what was going on between light and darkness "CERTAINLY" didn't work. It went and blew all of you away even if it was talked about in BBS and even 3D. Introduce Namine? "Oh yea sure! I accept the fact that she is Kairi's nobody. THAT IS FINE!" But once KH2 and the horrendous 358/2 Days come out, "OH MY GLOB! Like, this is all Kairi's fault! The plot of the game, we did not need to know that there was a Xion and we need to know how Sora and Roxas can dual wield and we do not even need to know about how there was a digital world on Mickey's computer... BUT IT IS ALL KAIRI'S FAULT SO I CLAIM HER MARY SUE!"

We all might as well say that the whole game was screwed from the very beginning because of the ideas made from Nomura and the company and just come to the conclusion that Kairi is not even the problem but the whole series overall. We all know that Sora was not even suppose to get a keyblade anyway but he got it by luck. Whoo hoo. I didn't like Sora's back posture anyways when he get into a battle pose and he felt dumb to me from KH2 on up. YES! That's it! It is not about the plot around Kairi but mainly the plot of Kingdom Hearts as a whole! Oh how lovely. The whole world is better off not playing the original and you, Abstract, myself and every Kingdom Hearts fan, would be better off in playing the wonderful version that is, the 1.5 HD Remix Edition! And now I bow.

 

Which is why I said that the game was most likely to be messed up from the beginning for some characters individual and for the game overall. *Sigh* I don't know. Everything is confusing now. I like her for the fact that she has potential in actually doing something (Which is why I want her to be playable to begin with). All this debate about where Nomura could have just had Kairi to do something during this scene or that scene, I understand all of that junk. The whole plot fails. Why have Sora in Chain of Memories think about the islands, wanting to go back to the islands, slap Namine in there to be a reminder of Kairi, then inKH2, throw in scenes such as Sora picturing himself and Kairi spinning around as they were holding hands while Sora was in Halloween Town, the whole plot is basically confusing and uncomfortable now.

The only way that the series will have the best possible ending is if they make the game as super long as a Final Fantasy game (Or a Xenosaga game) by explaining every single little details as much as possible. The only way to save the game in my opinion. Will not be getting KH3 in about 2 years I believe. Might as well make Kairi a troll in addition to her mary sue-ish capabilities.

And back on Selphie, she does have as much connection with him really as she does with Tidus and Wakka. Was more of a friend to Kairi. She remembers Riku more than she did Sora so I cannot see the relation there as to how Selphie works better with Sora than Kairi does.

 

<_< I don't know either Kitty. My perspectives are now changing so I am in a tug-of-war now on which side I want to be now after going through this discussion. Denial, maybe. Meh. I don't know. I am having a headache from thinking on all of this.

Worse case (Well... sad actually) is that the game players actually know what a game could have improved on just from contents that should have been added to begin with... which at least would have avoid the companies having different remixes and different versions... but with Kairi, it is nothing but an argument on her well-being which brings stron dislikes to her which we know she does not even deserves it if only SE did something with her that can make the players love her even more.

I have been screaming for years that Kairi should be playable because lets face it, we all know that she had potential. As of now, I really do not even care. I just want the whole saga to end.