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Religion

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by EbeneezerAl, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    No you can't. Jesus didn't lead anybody astray. People who don't understand things the way they are meant to be lead themselves astray. If anything, Jesus was trying to lead people in the right direction.

    We can't 100% prove God exists. True, all of existance should be proof, but like Pulse has shown, you can't prove God's existance 100%. If we could, then there wouldn't be any atheists.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2009
  2. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    but 90% is better than 10%?
    *0% better than 20%, 70% better than 30%, for heaven sakes 51% is better than 49%!!!!!!!!
    THATS MY POINT!!!!!
     
  3. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's better. I'm not going against you there. All I was saying is that even if we could prove it 99%, we still can't prove it 100%
     
  4. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    but we can seddle for 90% because thats as close as we can get.
     
  5. No, we can only settle for 50%, because there has yet to a single verified "Miracle".
     
  6. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    You do know the definition of a miracle is something that cannot be explained, right? And going off of that definition, you can't verify a miracle.
     
  7. Well, how do they verify Saints? They verify the miracle that the Saint did correct?
     
  8. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Miracles back when could really be what we go to the hospital for now......to cure us of something. If someone was sick back then, they couldn't do to much about it. But now we got all this medical technology to help us, and save people from the claws of death. Jesus could've simply been a doctor that was manic depresive......but I dont think thats neccesarily the case.
     
  9. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I don't remember how exactly it's done, but they review the person's life or something. And also, a Saint is anybody who makes it to Heaven (If that's what you believe). And going off of that, there are probably alot of Saints that we don't know are Saints.
     
  10. .mop

    .mop New Member

    hey guys i got a question, i have never read the bible thoughrouly and every tyme i swear people tell me im going to go to hell so i was wondering anywhere in the bible does it say cursing is a sin
     
  11. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    yes, its a commandment. It goes hand in hand with doing harm to your neighbor I think, and the commandment of not believeing in god says some stuff about no cursing and no witchcraft. But if you dont believe in that then it doesnt really apply to your beliefs. I believe in karma, it makes the most sense. I guess I personally believe it depends on how you swear to really be sure that its a "sin", u know? Like if you damn the "devil", i dont think its a sin, but if you damn your mom for making you a nice breakfast, then its a sin....lol
     
  12. First, why would you damn your mom for making good breakfast. Unless, she made my eggs scrambled.
     
  13. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    just an example. You need to pay better attention to things Sepiroth. This is a debate, not time to goof around. Next time make a point.
     
  14. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

  15. I think it's a bunch of crap. Btw, Mythology is based off of dead religions that leave their stories behind. But, in Zoroastrianism, you believe in a very huge Mythology, so then, doesn't that mean that your religion is dead?
     
  16. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    No, there are near 140,000 members still today in Pakistan and India. I of course am in America, so in much of the world it is "dead", but thats because of Ancient Rome and The Dogmatic Catholic Church that forces people to believe in Christianity. Now that some freedom has been given to the world, they turn back to Christianity because its the only religion "left". Because Brits and Romans killed off much of Ancient culture for selfish reasons.

    No Sephiroth, its not entirely dead, just not what it used to be 3,500 years ago....sorry. But to closed minded people like you, it might as well be.
    Mythology IS religion, because people believe in it. Christianity and other religions have tried to play down the word "mythology", because they dont want people to think these "ancient tales" were ever above or beyond their own belief. But the truth is that some of these religions were even more great in "population" and strength than Christianity will ever be. So to call them "dead" is completely uncalled for, even if they are. hats like an insult to the ancient world......you dont want ghosts to haunt you now do you?

    And please, go on and explain how you think my religion is "a load of crap". I'm kinda getting sick of getting these not even 2 sentences of complaints out of you. Debate somthing, MAKE A POINT about something. Dont just call something stupid and not explain.
     
  17. No, mythology is just a big story that people can choose to read and believe in it if they feel like it.
     
  18. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Cant you say the same for the Bible, Koran, Torah, and the Talmud? They're a collection of stories people choose to read and believe if they feel like it. Mythology is the same as religion, their just "ancient". Mythology is religion. It was religion before what you know to be religion even existed.
     
  19. No, totally different. The Bible has actual events integrated with it.
     

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