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Religion

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by EbeneezerAl, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    yes, or what I believe to be the "true" trinity.
    Almighty Father/Creator



    "Good" Son/Preserver "Bad" Son/Destroyer

    Many myths/religions continue this belief in a Creator/Preserver/Destroyer Trinity.
    All of it is a copy off of Zoroastrianism.
     
  2. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Isn't Mythology supposed to be the stories of dead religions? Like the Greeks had their gods, and mythology was stories about what happened, like Zeus beating his father and becoming the leader of the gods.
     
  3. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    exactly Desert Warrior, exactly....
     
  4. But Zoroastrianism came in way before the Empires correct? I'm only assuming that they never learned about it.
     
  5. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    The Empires eventually forced Zoroastrians to worship Greek Mythology, or Muslims forced their superior hardcore belief on the Persians as teh Persian Empire fell. Its not that they didn't know of it, they feared it and wanted to conquer it because it went against their beliefs. As the Persian Empire fell, so did Zoroastrianism. Many converted to Islam, because they saw teh white man Roman as "evil", but Islam wasn't the "greatest" descision either. Some hardcore Zoroastrianz are still to this day protecting the great temples from being destroyed by Muslim extremists who wish to take control of them, and they've moved their "Headquarters" to India. about 140,000 Zoroastrians still exist. I make 140,001......

    So yeah, its not that they didn't know about the religion, its that they wanted to destroy it........but some "good" Romans believed in teh religion when they learned of it when in Persia, and they created a cult off of the belief system within the Roman government called Mithraism. Mithras was a son of Zoroastrianism's main god Ahura-Mazda (follow me so far?). They used him, and they tried to merge Greek Mythology in with Zoroastrianism, but such a "merge" goes against Zoroastrian belief systemz. This was ill news to the "good" Romans who stuck up for Zoroastrianism in any way they possibly could without getting the guilotine. Zoroastranism fell.....but it wasn't over yet. Manichi. Another branch off of Zoroastrianism rose later on to challenge Islam, but fell when Manichi died later on.....
    The Magi themselves were a cultish branch off of Zoroastrianism, and the "3 Wise Men" in the birth of The Christ child were actually Zoroastrians looking for Ahura-Mazda......
     
  6. So, you are a Zoroastrian. It makes way more sense now.
     
  7. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    yeah, I am Zoroastrian. I actually dont like to say I'm any one religion, because they all have their faults, but Zoroastrianism has "less" you could say, if anyone asks me I say Zoroastrianism. I basically believe in it, theres just one thing that bugs me about the religion. But I also like Mithraism and Manichaiesm, so like they're really all in teh same, just like different interpretations of Zoroastrianism. Like Christianity has Lutherans and Catholics and Methodists and stuff, Zoroastrianism is like that, but changes as time goes by. Because around the time 0f the early "A.D.'s", Mithraism and Zoroastrianism were like at war with each other, and no one knows why......
     
  8. Okay, that's somewhat understandable.
     
  9. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Wether one religion is wrong or not. It is obvious that there is a God. People just have to look beyond todays liberal views, pop culture, and there own ignorance to see it. I beleive alot of people take parts of the bible to literaly. But when I looked at the bible and then looked at scientific evidence then I ask myself, "How does th emind of God work?" I stop looking at it from a human point of view and start looking at it from how God may look at it. My conclusions show that looking at that way, causes science and religion to match up almost perfectly.

    This is why I am sure there is a God.
     
  10. No, stop right there with all this Liberal. Where is God right now? I don't see him, feel him in any way. So submit to me, that there is a God, and where's your evidence. We already proved that Jesus was real, but God? Nope, not yet. So what's up?
     
  11. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Thats why you must look at the evidence around you and have faith. You expect God to prove himself to you, but why should he? He's the most poweful being in existence, he does'nt have to show you proof. You must show him your worthy to enter paradise, your the human, your the one who must prove yourself to him. It's not all about you, it's all about god.
     
  12. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    First off, the existence of god is all around us, not in a hippy or "we are proof" type of way, but look at the obvious signs of good and evil. the good is hard to find, but I know a few really good people out there. But evil is SO APPARENT it isn't even funny. God yes, evil yes, good maybe.....but is God good? Maybe, maybe not. The god of THIS world might not be.....but my theory is that teh God of Paradise IS "good".

    Pop culture, liberalism, and closed mindedness are all signs of godless overload. If we can eliminate such ideals in godless society and lazy happiness, then our overall moral society as a world may become "better" than it is now....
    As for the whole religion=science thing, okay, all you got is the order of creation, but other than that were does the Bible match with scientific beliefs? No where, I've read teh Bible all the way threw a few timez now, so I'd know.
    And look at what I bolded demon. You cant see or feel or even try to think like god. God is way above us. We can learn about him, but you'd need to be more than a genius to "think like God".....so I know your lieing their and I dont like liars. NO ONE CAN THINK LIKE GOD.

    Jesus? Jesus?! Liberalism IS bringing the world down Seph. Thats just a fact. One worldism and secularism is bringing down teh worlds economy. A One World Government WILL destroy humanity. Power must be divided to obtain a sense of peace.
    As for God, I think i've elaborated on good and evil quite a bit. There is a god, just look within your own sense of thinking to find it.

    But turnign it around on him like that isnt teaching him anything demon. Karma...evil.......sin. These thingz are all around us, and there IS proof of them. Only faith can help one theorize teh existence of a god. Some take in such thingz as karma, the evils of teh world, and one's innner sin and just through that common sense knowledge away....but others use it in theory. Your right, there is no proof of god. But there is proof of other thingz taht we must take in account of that can lead to the belief in god. I personally believe in god.
     
  13. I'll ignore that, but on the other hand, faith is over-rated. Take The Crusades, we (the Catholics) prayed, and we didn't get anything from it.
     
  14. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    ignore? Read or dont debate, these r rulez Seph. What if i just ignored you for once? What if you made really good point and i just said:"yeah, whatever..."?
    Its kinda rude.
    Anywayz.........a lot of things Christians did were stupid. Crusades were just an example. And faith isa great thing, you look down on it because you lack proper faith Seph.
     
  15. I don't lack proper faith. I have lots of faith, it's called playing "Doubles Advocate."
     
  16. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Doubles Advocate? Faith is faith, if your a Christian and you mock your own faith and religion, then your a hypocrite. Everyone knows hypocrites are wrong.
     
  17. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    O'k wait a second. Let's not blame God for what some christians did wrong.
     
  18. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    All right. I've probably stated several times that I belive that God is real. Now, let's say that he for sure, 100% exists. And he's all powerful and all knowing. Now answer me this: Can we prove that something like that exists? No. God can prove to us He exists, but we cannot prove He exists.

    Sometimes the best results from prayers are nothing at all. Haven't you ever heard of an unanswered prayer?
     
  19. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    Just gonna step in here, I'm a Christian and mock the Christian faith. Once you join a religion/cult you cannot unjoin (leave). In my situation I was baptised at an early age without full knowledge of the shit I was gettin myself into.

    You cannot call someone a hypocrite until you have all the facts :)

    And thats all I have read since my last post. ^^
     
  20. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    but we can blame Jesus'es morals and teaching to lead them astray....

    we can proove it. Read my last post on good and evil and karma, I explain everything well there....

    U can leave, I left, I just prooved u wrong Pulse. I was just thinking about baptisim the other day.......its all about what you think/believe in the end. Consider it a bath ^_^. Then you have "fallen away" in their eyez.
    And how do I not know all teh facts? If you say something like that you should proove it please ^_^.
     

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