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Obama Debate

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Twilight Keyblade, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    I really think they should lower the age to drinking to 18. I need to talk to Obama about this. I <3 Grey Goose and Captain Morgan. Beer isn't bad but I don't like it. Hard Liquor all the way!
     
  2. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    A small amount is not bad. But we all know that most people drink so much that they get drunk. Getting drunk leads to unprotected sex, jail time, and even worse DEATH!!!

    Your insane. Why do you want people to get drunk? They could die.
     
  3. I pretty much agree with demon on this.
     
  4. ü

    ü 30•05•2010

    Why do you want people to drive, they could die. Why fly in a plane, they could die. Why cut your hair, the scissors could slip and you could die. Just saying someone can drink doesn't mean you want them to get drunk. And nearly everything you do you could end up dying.
     
  5. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    :(:(:( YUKOU! What's wrong with you?! Playing like God?! There's no way you can do that! God is never evil & Satan is never good! I... I just... can't... I don't know what to say anymore. :(:(
     
  6. But when you get drunk you are putting your life at risk for a very stupid reason. The stuff you listed usualy lead to an accidentle death. I'm not saying that drinking is bad, I am just saying that getting drunk is bad.

    I have just decided to give up on Yukou and Zenrot. They think they know everything. Abortion is wrong because it's an attempt to play God which is one of the worst sins. You can't call yourself God or play God because it's wrong. The reason our country is a mess is because of people like Zenrot and Yukou. The best country is the one that follows God. When aithiest become the majority it means the end of the nation as we know it is near. Only a God loving nation can be the best. Which is why America has been the best.
     
  7. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    Alright then. You know what, if God gave the power to play God, then I would. You have one life and one life only. Life is too short, a lesson that I learn from the countless people I lost through illness and other causes.

    Instead of learning from a book, I rather experience life. If that means getting drunk and partying then I am all for it. You know what, I consider myself a liberal person because I BELIEVE in equality. I believe that everyone has the right to do what their hearts want. I believe in our three inalienable rights, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. If drinking is my happiness, which is not, then I am going to do it. The government is here, so that people won't go chaotic.

    I, and many people on this site, are opened minded. We are open to change and some time change is a good thing and that is what I think Obama wants to bring. Do I want to be raised in a Christian nation, hell no!


    P.S. I drink to socialize. Drinking isn't fun and you don't judge people who drink. Personally, I don't drive when I drink and I don't get drunk easily and when I do, I usually stay at the place that i did the drinking. I don't drink when I go out, I usually drink in my dorm or at my house under my parents' supervision.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2009
  8. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Lets get back on topic people.....
     
  9. HOLD ON NOW!!! You just went too far. I don't care what makes you happy, if it hurts someone else then your going to jail. If your next door to me and you have the music turn up having a party and drinking then I am calling the police because you are disturbing the peace.

    Let's get one thing straight. This country is not based on what each person wants to do. Everyone must follow the law. I believe everyone should have an equal opportunity at success but if you don't succeed then that is your fault and no one should have to take car of you.

    Change is not always good. Obama's kind of change is SOCIALISM.

    When areyou going to relise that Obama is evil.
     
  10. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Wrong. The majority of people don't drink too much. And the amount required to get drunk differs from person to person. My dad, for instance, can probably drink more alcohol than you and not get drunk. It all depends on our genetics.

    And as a side note, stop using the term unprotected sex damnit! Nobody is protecting themselves from anything. They're avoiding stuff.

    Yukou never said he wanted people to get drunk. And I agree with him. They should lower the drinking age to 18 (But then again, it's not something Obama's gonna do). Legally, 18 is an adult. And in other countries, children are allowed to drink alcohol. The military used to allow people 18 years old to drink, but for some reason, they changed that. If you think about it, making laws to prevent people from drinking for as long as you can is kinda liberal. I've noticed this from liberal things. Basically, things that are designed to prevent people from doing things to make one group happy. A good example of this is Political Correctness. It is something that is made to prevent us from doing or saying some things, when in reality Political Correctness is stupid and pointless.

    Funny how liberals have changed what they're for. In the past Democrats (Them being liberals) did the best they could to keep African Americans enslaved and without rights. And now Democrats are saying that they want equality for everybody. Funny how they change when a majority of the world or something looks down upon their actions.

    And as another note, equality is good and all. But, sometimes it isn't great. There are some people who deserve more than others, and there are some people who don't deserve anything.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2009
  11. Listen my sister died in a car accident involving alcohol. It's a personal thing just drop it, please.

    You brought up a good point. Democrats/liberals did support slavery and the republicans wanted the slaves to have freedom. Abe Lincoln was a republican.

    It seems to me that liberals just go with whatever is popular while cosnervitave republicans stick to their values and morals. I believe that in fighting for God no matter who is against me.
     
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  12. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    I agree in the fact that Republicans have more values and morals, and that democrats seem to "change" their opinion on things very rapidly when the majority of people change what they desire.

    But what we need to realize is that both Neo-libs. and Neo-cons. both want the same thing. Radical fascism and radical communism are equivalent. So really what Twilight stands for is the old Conservative, but the Neo-cons and Neo-libs of today really are on the same side, and that is really sad. This world is truly coming to a godless era.
     
  13. Yeah. I'm talking about a mix of Regan conservitism and some of my own ideas pretty much. THE TRUE CONSERVITISM.
     
  14. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Yeah, like I said, more older Conservatism. The good conservatism.
     
  15. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    Well, yeah, Republicans are strict and very conservative. Well, which, comes to my point, I am liberal because I want to make people happy. If they are happy then I am happy. I feed off people emotions. And I do believe in change. After Bush put us through hell with his party and administration last 2 terms, I want something different. I am open to change and I don't mind it. Legalize Gay Marriage, Legalize Marijuana, I don't care. I just want a breathe of fresh air from the Republicans.

    @ the whole drinking thing. I am sorry that it brought back bad memories, but I was trying to tell you my point. When I drink, I don't drink to get drunk and I am a smart drinking, 5-6 shots, I drink water because it dilutes the alcohol, and I am not like these dumb fucks who drive afterward and get people kill. I consider myself a smart drinker and a smart drunk.
     


  16. But God is supposed to be a huge part of our country.
     
  17. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    Again, I don't care about religion in politics. Did Obama mention God in his term in presidency? Of course he refer to God for assurance, but did he ever come on tv and said, "Well, People of America, I had a vision today and God told me to ban gays. God told me that you have to listen to him. Etc.?" Well no. He refer to God to watch over us.

    Religion do play a major role in politics, and it controls people on what to do. You rant about God like He is going to save you when you are starving for food, needed a place to stay, and dying from an illness. That is why we, people, created things such as medicine and there is something that humans have and that is free will and determination. Don't sit on your ass thinking that God will fix thing when you wake up tomorrow. You need to do things on your own. True most people think that God will find an answer to everyone problems, but he is one man you know.

    And that is what Obama is trying to do. To make America run by its people and to make us help ourselves.
     
  18. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    -_-_-. This is why all of you need to take this to the religious section & there's no where in the bible that says God is a man. I'm going to stay out of this & just read what all of you say. I don't have to get caught up in all of these. All of you is young adults.
     
  19. Have you ever heard the verse in the bible that says, "I am my brother's keeper."? This means that we have to take care of ourselves and of eachother but if something happens that we can't handle we must turn to God in prayer. He will either help us directly or give us the strength or resources to overcome our problem.

    Let me tell you a story. A friend of mine had cancer not to long ago and she was expected to die. The doctors had given up on her and said that there was no hope. She did'nt give up hope. She prayed everyday for a month for God to do what he sees fit. a couple of weeks later the cancer was gone and she walked out of the hospital as healthy as possible.

    See it's events like this that show that there is a God and we need only to trust and call on him.

    Have you forgotten that this nation was built on the belief of a God? George Washington said, "Religion is the back bone of society. Without it a nation can not survive." That's why our country is in trouble is because of people turning away from God. Listen to the founding fathers, they were very wise.

    We use God in our songs and our pledge. "One nation under God" meaning we are under God and all his laws. "God bless America" He will if we are loyal to him. "In God we trust" we must trust him to be a great nation.

    Without God you could not breathe nor could you walk nor would you be alive today. God controls all things and with him the victory belongs to his children and his children alone.

    You see we won the Revolutionary War because God was on our side. We hoped that God was on our side because even George Washington said we could not win that war without God.

    Our nation is the greatest nation because we have been a God loving nation. Now that abortion is legal, now that gay marriage is becoming more accepted, and now that athienism is on the rise, our nation is failing and failing fast.

    Those who claim to be opened minded are easy to change and to go with the flow. God says to stand for him, fight fo him, be a light to the world. God never changes. God is the same today as he was in the begining.

    God is not a man therefore he does not have temptations. He is perfection. He is the begining and the end. The alpha and omega. The one true and living God.
     
  20. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    All I have to say is these before this thread becomes a Religion thread, I don't believe in God and I don't believe in His teachings. I acknowledge the fact that there is a God out there but I don't want to follow his word. I am my own person. I have my own thoughts. And if in fact, that God created us all, then I'll thank him, but if he ask me to do what he says, I would nod my head no.

    I believe in Medicine and Science because those are support by facts. I do rely on spiritual healing but not that much.

    @ Obama.

    Why do you despise him so much? Are you afraid of change?
     

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