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A Revelation About Ven!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep' started by Mythril Roxas, Jul 10, 2009.

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  1. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    Larxene is right. Nomura said something about if you think about Sora AND Roxas then you'd understand who Ven is which I still don't know

    Rawr: I didn't even see the shadow! *thumps self on head* And your theories do sound pretty good

    SB: That's why this the THEORY section. And how are we suppose to spoil BBS??? -_-

    X3pic: That Heartless thing actually isn't a bad idea..........is it possible *no bashing meh theory!* that Ven could be KH1 Sora's Heartless? And I already know about him turning into a shadow and everything! But maybe he had two Heartless' and one found a way to go into the path? No bashing please!
     
  2. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    <.> Trumpy spoiled 358/2 days. I bet someone can spoil BBS too Kod. he made me cry over Xion!! Anyways, -_- Ven is not Sora's heartless because SORA IS 4 YEARS OLD DURING THE TIME OF BBS!! Not only that, Ven being the first actual heartless: Hm? I'm not sure about that because KH & KH2 states about Xehanort going into darkness & making heartless in his labs with Ansem's other apprentices. Why Ven & Sora summon their keyblade so differently, I have no clue, but it'll be related to Terra & Aqua when it comes to keyblades.

    Not only that, the worlds that Sora, Ven, & Roxas(For 358/2 days) visited may have something to do with them. I'm not real sure though, but if Ven, Sora, & Roxas are connected, shouldn't that mean that Roxas should have the memories of Ven too? I mean, Ven met Cinerella on her world...
     
  3. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    then the heartless idea is out then. and the only way someone could spoil it is if their theory is correct OR someone steals the game plays it and puts it on the internet BEFORE it was even released anywhere. two very slim possibilities
     
  4. GrandShadow

    GrandShadow I accept your challange.

    for all we know someone could have said the correct answer. we just wouldn't know because its not out yet. so the only real way for spoilers would be if someone on the team making BBS decided to give away the secrets.
     
  5. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Which is none of us, because WE'RE NOT ON THE KH GAME MAKING TEAM! IN other words, all we have to do is guess what we think (Which we is most likely to be wrong anyways.)
     
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  6. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    The first heartless is either MX's apprentice, or MX himself. Ven isn't a heartless...

    Now summonerbrandon, if u dont agree with what we have to say, thats fine, but either make a statement as to why that prooves the theory wrong, or just stay off this thread. If u dont want to hear any spoilers, then just leave this thread alone. We might be wrong, we might be right, thats the facts, now deal with it. If u dont want to know either way, then leave this thread. Its your choice for looking on the thread, no one forced u.
     
  7. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    -_- Wooooooooow Mythril. To me, that was real stupid right there. Seriously, if someone post a link to the spoilers, I just won't go to there, & yes, I do make statements to explain why I think it is wrong, so I don't know where you is even trying to come from anyways. I never did complain about how much you is so wrong at this theory or how much you is so wrong in this debate & don't say that I did, because I never did do any of that. In other words, you don't know what you're talking about.

    Anyways, I doubt that MX was a heartless, because if he was one, then he could've summoned his own heartless, but instead, it was Xehanort, Ansem's apprentice, who started the heartless incidents based on the Ansem Reports. Now, with MX apprentice, that's a different story there. He has a heartless symbol on it, carries the keyblade, Way to the Dawn, that Riku carries, & in KH1 & Chain of Memories, Riku be going into a form that has a similar designing to MX dark apprentice & MX & Xehanort's heartless, so I can accept that, but, something doesn't make any sense to me though. Don't Ven & MX dark apprentice have a connection too?
     
  8. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    How could they have a connection? If anybody from T/V/A has the slightist connection to the apprentice it's Terra in my opinion
     
  9. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    I DID NOT MEAN TO SPOIL IT... and by the way it was a fairly long artical... long enought for you to figure it out and stop reading... it was an accident...
     
  10. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    uh he said Silverteump not Larxene
     
  11. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    don't be an idiot
    thank you
    um proof?
    I wasn't saying that he was, im saying its possible, plus its better than callin him an unbirth.
     
  12. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    how is it stupid?

    how is it better?



    lets not get into a huge fight over virtually nothing. Stop calling eachother idiots and crap, its just so immature....
     
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  13. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    ur still lacking proof?
    its better because atleast we know what a heartless is, we don't have the slightiest clue on what an unbirth is.
     
  14. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    Oh my bad i thought he meant when i spoiled who xion was for a couple of people
     
  15. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    but you gave no proof as to how Ven is a heartless. I KNOW i have no proof, thats why this is a theory, but at least I explained how Ven might possibly be the Unbirth of Sora's older and/or twin brother. It would explain the connections, but yes, it is only a theory.

    Now, explain your theory on how Ven might be a heartless.....please.
     
  16. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    -_- Oh no. Please don't try to get into each other's throat. I'll listen to your theory, & depending on what you say aboutthe theory, I might agree to it, but I really find ven being Sora's heartless very hard to believe.
     
  17. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Actually its not my theory, i just said it because it does make more sense to say he is a heartless, because atleast we know what a heartless is, to say he is unbirth to me is kind of a huge jump, because we don't know who ven is and nor do we know what a unbirth is, so to me saying Ven is an Unbirth is basically the same as calling him a heartless, but if you want me to explain let me see

    Heartless=one who has lost its heart to darkness. thats the basics

    Ven is losing something, we don't know what, but i guess if it was my theory i would say he is losing his heart to darkness. therefore he becomes the first heartless,

    that my sir, makes more sense then saying HE IS AN UNBIRTH, and we don't know what those are yet.

    I respect his theory, but he just has no proof, neither of does, but i just hate the fact people, try to say like he can be an unbirth, but we don't know what those are..
     
  18. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    we kinda now what a unbrith is, we've seen what they are, just that namour wont say anything else on bbs, but to call ven a unbrith is a big jump, unbriths could be like nobodys some are small while other have haman bodys, just like roxas, they can weild keyblades, that would explain why MX has one, but then we would have to know what is before unbrith then, we would have to understand why they can hold keyblades if they have know heart(maybe) so we can't say he's a unbrith. we have to assume he the first heartless cause that the only thing we know.
     
  19. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    exactly, the only thing we know is what they look like, we don't know how they are created.

    While i doubt MX is an unbirth
    and that unbirths can't hold keyblades, i have no evidence, saying that they can't
     
  20. kiarigrl888

    kiarigrl888 New Member

    there is no evidence! how the heck are u supose to have a theroy with no proof?!?!?!
     
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