Xehanort = Unverse Theory

^_^ that's a great theory, but if Xehanort is terra's unverse, then how come Terra fought Sora in KH2 FM then? Terra shouldn't exist if his unverse is made.

 

*yawns* was waiting for somone to post something about unverse but i was hoping no one would, but you do have som legit points.

whats the point?

Its the only hatred he has at the time.
What if Xehanort did something too Aqua or Ven?
Breaking there bond, he could hate him for no reason
and IF he was Terra's unverse, wouldn't he be made because of Terra's hatred toward someone else and not him?
Ontop of that why would its name be Xehanort?
um ontop of that im pretty sure Xehanort was a human.
An apprentice of AtW
Ontop of that, i doubt that an Unverse can have a Heartless and Nobody
ONTOP OF THAT. why does xehanort have, IF being an unverse have the form of a human .
blah this is way to simple to take apart
answer those questions and you may have a point
the most legit thing you could have said is Xehanort is MX's apprentice..I may have no commented

yea so why wouldn't that negative emotion make an unverse and not the unverse already been made and have a heartless and nobody?

why does he keep this form? because of why?...

none actually

Um Terra doesn't look young. He looks in the 17-20..Maybe older, not so young,
young im thinking 4
but can't say it isn't a good point, but i think not

Xemnas couldn't understand, he ACTED like he understood, nobodies don't have emotions..

Nobodies don't have these there for Xemnas couldn't understand..

Again all emotions, don't put Xemnas with emotions, becuase he can't feel these what so ever..

wow..
Nobodies DO NOT have emotions, they don't remember, they don't feel emotions at all

No
he remembered what HE THOUGHT was anger and hate, he didn't know these emotions. Xemnas wanted his heart back so he could feel emotions..therefore you have no evidence in this part

Xemnas didn't remember negative emotiosn, because again he can't feel them

When terra said this im pretty sure it wasn't canon unless you can show me proof it was, becuase i heard it was. and again when terra did say that, these negative emotions should have made Xehanort, and how do we know he isn't talking about MX? because Terra did call MX, just xehanort before..

btw not that many similarites, but hairstyle and eye color, and thats eye color we only saw once from terra

 

Yes i know there is so many things wrong with your theory, thats why i addressed them

basically your wrong, i can't shorten it because there are so many errors in your theory its ridiculous
but ill point out the MAIN things

You say terra says something abou Xehanort right?

Well Terra calls MX, Xehanort, he doesn't call him MX, he calls him Xehanort
so how do you know Terra is talking about Apprentice Xehanort, Im thinking he is talking about MX
and i can put up a stronger argument then that.

You say Xemnas can feel emotion?

He can't he just acts like he can. That is one of the main traits of a nobody, so whatever you said about Xemnas is basically wrong.

Unverse part.

I don't think Xehanort is an unverse, reasons:

1) why does he have human form?

2) Terra isn't young he is 17-20, im thinkin AtW found a child

3) Im sure its impossible for an unverse to have a Nobody and Heartless

there are many other reasons but these are the main points

Also

You are saying, Terra is an unverse, because he hates Xehanort?

then you say that Xehanort is terra?

So why would he hate himself?

maybe your Theory is confusing..

Also.

If Terra were an Unverse, and he said he hated Xehanort, he seems pretty happy in some of the trailers ive seen, so he couldn't really be an unverse at that time.

Basically your contradicting youself a little

 

HEY HEY HEY how would a unverse have a heartless and nobody? plus i think maybe the atw apprentice dude is just terra i mean he looks just like him right? without the colors terra has, and he remember xehanort right, maybe cause he became a unverse then or he just nearly got took-en by darkness and somehow MX was able to go inside of his heart, but it didn't work and he got trapped but not without trying to change terra into himself, casue MX has a white beard(this is the worst analogy) so maybe that's why atws apprentice has white hair and same color eyes as MX, cause MX nearly changed terra that's why he remembered his name, cause the first thing you get when your made is your name. so what about it?

 

Okay now i finally grasped you theory, and for the sake of argument, i read this in class so i rushed through it, ontop of that wasn't being a smart ass, you theory is okay, but has holes.

Like why would terra turn into an unbirth wouldn't he make one?

 

Just to point out, the battle in KH2: FM+ isn't against Terra (Unless Nomura has actually said that the boss is Terra).

1) Maybe if he's a strong enough Unverse, he could look human. After all, the strongest of Nobodies look human.

2) 17-20 is considered the age of being a Young Adult. And in that memory scene of Mickey's, where he's talking to AtW, and Young Xehanort comes in, you said that it takes place approx. 1 year after BBS. So AtW couldn't have found Young Xehanort as a child unless AtW found Young Xehanort years before BBS. But I seriously doubt anybody here thinks that.

3) We don't know enough about Unverses. So (since their traits are still truly unknown), it can go either way. It's still a possibility for Unverses to have Nobodies and Heartlesses, if it is a strong enough Unverse.

That's my comment for now.

 

1) I doubt it 2

2)Yes i thought he said young boy, but he said young man, so that was my mistake

3) If unverse have nobodies and heartlesses they would still exist in KH1 time, they don't.

 

1 & 3 are just guesses. Until BBS comes out/more info is revealed about the Unverse, we don't really know what's possible.

And (For argument's sake), let's say Terra made an Unverse (Young Xehanort). And let's say he's the most powerful Unverse. Maybe, just maybe, he eliminated every other Unverse during his experiments, and ended up creating the Heartless.

 

ha 3 isn't a guess sense its been confirmed, that Unverses/unbirth aren't in Kh1 time.

Yes, i don't have a problem with him making an unverse, no problem there. He was just saying Terra turned into an unverse. I don't like that theory.

But your most powerful unverse sounds no good, why would he eliminate all of his kind?

 

Mabye they died out because of his experiments with the heart. And thinking about point 3, maybe when and Unverse forms a Heartless or a Nobody, they can't return to being an Unverse. So in that case, Young Xehanort could have experimented on them, turning them into Heartless. And maybe he had some object that would draw Unverse to him, so he could have a hearty supply of test subjects.

And, a question popped into my mind. For about a year now, the Unverse have been called Unbirth, right? And clearly, Nomura would've heard of the mistranslation months before now. So I'm forced to question why Nomura didn't correct people earlier. Do you think there's a possibility that he had a reason for letting people think they were called Unbirth this whole time?

 

Hmm if that were true they would still be around during Sora's keyblade reign. I don't think so but possibly.

Honestly thinkng the same, i think t was to throw us off,

 

Yea or maybe it was confusing because you said Xehanort instead of Master Xehanort, thats the only part that got me


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This I do agree and I can see, but your argument still isn't strong enough to prove that Terra transformed into an unverse, because really we don't know what they are, which just know basics,

Nobodies can keep human forms if they originally had a strong heart

Two people kept human forms as just hearts, after they were supposed to turn into heartless, because they had a strong heart

Now with unverse, since nothing has been lost, why can Terra suddenly keep his human form as an unverse?

Don't get me wrong, Its a good thought, because it came across my mind when I read the nomura interview.
I thought back to the KH2 Secret Ending Trailer, when Terra gets angry and his eye color starts to change, thought he was becoming an unverse, but then i thought, well MX's eyes are the same color, what if he is an unverse, and terra is finally crossing between the wall of light and darkness, to a side that is negative, an unverse side.

that is what you can not answer.
If that is the case then Terra would not have created an unverse, he would have become an unverse.

Idc about anyone on KHinsider, so this has no meaning, just because everyone believes doesn't mean i have to, its not a trend, its a theory.

Actually thats not why they are called theories, to be exact, but not even Nomura can tell us exactly how things happen in KH

This is understandable, but there isn't enough information to make anything fit, atleast wait until more information is released.

 

You can take Xehanort and get No Earth + X out of it.
Terra = Earth.
OSHT-

Could just be coincidence though.