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What do suicides do in the KH-Universe?

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by Yo123, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Dec 5, 2012 #1
    Yo123

    Yo123 New Member

    Heya folks,

    afaik once you die in the KH universe you'll be turned into your corresponding heartless and nobody. If you have a strong mind/wishes those will keep your personal characteristics.. So let's come to my question, let's say you were a suicidal Donald (high depressed because Daisy cheated on him with Gladstone Gander) and killed yourself. Now you're SHD(Suicidal Heartless: Donald) and SND(Suicidal Nobody: Donald) because you had such a strong mind they keep your intimate wish to commit suicide and do so. Now that both of them killed theirselves you're reborn as Donald ( the normal one), as the same happened to Xehanort, Sora,Lea bla.. you know the examples...
    So how the hell would someone be able to kill himself in our lovely KH universe?
    Please do not see this as trolling or spamming, I just took this question into serious consideration.
    Thanks in advance for replying
     
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  2. Dec 5, 2012 #2
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Absolutely incorrect. We don't know what happens to a person when they die in the KH Series.

    Not all heartless have a corresponding nobody.

    Sounds ridiculous.

    Heartless and Nobodies don't die. They fade into darkness. And heartless don't have memories of their past life.

    Least this is right.

    Honestly, your misinformed. Dieing doesn't lead to becoming a heartless.

    -I love the scenario even though your concept on heartless was completely inaccurate.
     
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  3. Dec 5, 2012 #3
    Yo123

    Yo123 New Member

    What about dusks then? I thought those with weaker minds turn into them and the stronger the will the more humanoid the nobodies appear.
    And if you just take KH1 as an example... once you DIE you see your heart fading.
    And I know Nobodies and Heartless fade into darkness.. dieing just seemed as a fitting verb, as it's the end of their existence.
    And I thought that they slowly lose their memories. Let's take sora for example, he went to kairi after stabbing himself which shows connections to his memories etc.
    Anyways we don't need to be too exact as nobodies and heartless don't have a high life expectancy once we start swinging our keyblades.
    So what is actually going to happen with our lovely suicide?
     
  4. Dec 5, 2012 #4
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Their ranks could just as well be on how strong willed the person was. It's not really explained but the strongest of wills are the Organization.

    The problem is. No one has died in Kingdom Hearts I. That we know of.

    Okay.

    Eh, it could be so. He was turned into a heartless within seconds of finding Kairi.

    But there will always be heartless so really they will and have high life expectancy before, during, and after Sora. Those who cross his path are the misfortunate few.

    If you commit suicide. It's just that. You die!
     
  5. Dec 5, 2012 #5
    Yo123

    Yo123 New Member

    just put yourself into the middle of 100s of heartless and wait. once your hp goes to zero you're dead and you'll see the game over screen with your heart above you. ( heart going to kingdom hearts => sora turning heartless theoretically)
    even if you lose against non heartless like sephiroth.
    -> dead makes you heartless.
    so suicide could turn you heartless!
    there're no valid points against this thesis, so please take it into consideration.
    it's a magical world, who are you to use RL physics as explanation for happenings in there?
     
  6. Dec 5, 2012 #6
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Gameplay isn't canon. Plus nothing says 'You died'.
    In Kingdom Hearts if your soul leaves your body then your dead.

    If you lose your heart, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll become a heartless.

    Suicide is the extinguish of your own life. If you die in Kingdom Hearts, your soul is removed from body and supposedly your hearts goes to Kingdom Hearts.

    There is a valid point. If you die then you die.

    Not at all! I love it when people desire proof. In Kingdom Hearts II, there are these things called Secret Ansem Reports. Read this.

     
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  7. Dec 6, 2012 #7
    Fullmetal

    Fullmetal New Member

    In KH1, the person's heart that "dissolved" was technically killed by the Soldier Heartless that were pursuing him.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2012 #8
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    That's not specific and I don't know what you mean by 'technically'.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2012 #9
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    An interesting topic... but then again, death is complex in the game. For death, it came to some of the Disney villains, brought back to life and then get killed off once again. In Axel's case, he committed "suicide" when he spent all of his energy to let Sora go to The World That Never Was and yet, he came back as Lea. Only way to truly die is if the soul leaves the body as Angel said.
     

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