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The Catholic Church is a force for good in the world?

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Avalantos, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Dec 8, 2009 #1
    Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    YouTube - The Intelligence Squared Debate: Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (1 of 5)

    YouTube - The Intelligence Squared Debate: Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (2 of 5)

    YouTube - The Intelligence Squared Debate: Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (3 of 5)

    YouTube - The Intelligence Squared Debate: Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (4 of 5)

    YouTube - The Intelligence Squared Debate: Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (5 of 5)


    Please watch the video's and attempt to debate with what these people are saying.
     
  2. Dec 9, 2009 #2
    Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    Force of Good?


    Since
    fucking
    when?
     
  3. Dec 11, 2009 #3
    Figure.09

    Figure.09 New Member

    There is no "force of good." It is just a force, and it might do horrible things. Which it has done many, many times in the past and in the present.
     
  4. Dec 11, 2009 #4
    Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    that's a big stereotype, and lie, the force of good is some bull, and for that catholic should be ashamed.
     
  5. Dec 16, 2009 #5
    Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    The sad thing is that it doesn't matter what type of defense somebody comes up with.

    No matter how many good deeds an organization has done, even if those deeds exceed the bad ones by a mile, everybody will look at the bad deeds. So this debate is pointless. You guys will always believe, like Autopsy basically said, that the Catholic Church is not a force for good, and never has been.

    So what truly is the point of this debate?
     
  6. Dec 16, 2009 #6
    Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    If you watched the video's you would see and be bale to comment on the results.

    As you said the Bad points generaly out weigh the good points.

    There we go, a debate. But as the video's go on about, its not that but the confusion and lies the Catholic church has purposly put into peoples heads, as a force for God that seems insanely evil to me.
     
  7. Dec 16, 2009 #7
    Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I watched the first two links. But it was getting late and it is Finals week right now. I'll watch it when I get the time. Maybe over Christmas break.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2009 #8
    Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    All those links were removed by the user. Looks like not even I can get into the debate as it is. Could summarize the vids so i know what happened in all of them? But usually good and bad don't exist as separate entities, but muddle together in many areas.
     

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