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My Ven Theory READ PLEASE!!!

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Twin in Shroud, Jul 30, 2008.

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  1. Jul 30, 2008 #1
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    New theory on Ven. Ready go

    i believe that Ven and Roxas are one in the same. Most nobodies have memories of their former lives. Roxas did not. this means he lost them at one point. at the end of KH2FM+ the secret ending that door to kingdom hearts that M. Xehanort opened something happened to all three.

    So i figure that Roxas's hearts went inside sora like Kairi's did. This means that the two of them had a connection. when it went in Sora it was there for years and eventually joined and became a part of Sora not two hearts. so that means Ven and sora's heart became one but it was Sora's heart.
    this would explain why Sora had an unnaturally strong heart.

    when Sora stabbed himself with that weird keyblade it seperated the whole heart into halves. not as seperate whole hearts. Roxas was then a nobody who had no idea of his previous life. this explains alot. why xemnas went for him specifically and why he can dual weild key blades. one blade from sora's ability to use it and another from ven.

    Now i think that Aqua or something related to her was the XIV member and knew of his and her previous life. she and roxas talked and she made him want to get back to his former self. but he neede sora's other half to do that. so basically rxas knows somewhat of his relation to ven.

    anyway this is my theory.
     
  2. Jul 30, 2008 #2
    demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    that's kinda what i think to. but i beleive ven was sealed in sora's heart and when sora used the dark keyblade on his heart in hollow bastion, the seal on sora's heart was broken and ven was realesed. therefore ven became roxas.
     
  3. Jul 30, 2008 #3
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    How did he lose his memories?
     
  4. Jul 30, 2008 #4
    demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    well if ven was sealed in sora's heart, then ven's memories would be lost also. namine said so herself in chain of memories, when she was going to seal xehanorts heartless in riku's heart. she said riku would lose his memory. so if ven was sealed in sora's heart then ven would have lost his memory.
     
  5. Jul 30, 2008 #5
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    but how did ven turn into roxas... thats the confusing part...... are they the same person or are the both nobodys... cause for all we know sora possesses 2 nobodys...
    but it all makes sense
     
  6. Jul 30, 2008 #6
    demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    well in my theory when ven was released he basically was realesed as roxas, so roxas is kinda ven reborn.
     
  7. Jul 30, 2008 #7
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    oh ok now that makes sense.... sense he lost his memories i guess it made him into another person

    haha im just confusing myself lol... but i think i got it
     
  8. Jul 30, 2008 #8
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    yeah because technically Roxa's true name is Ven. Xemnas gave him the name Roxas. and remember Roxas wasn't exctly a nobody he had half a heart.
     
  9. Jul 30, 2008 #9
    demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    rememer that line in the secret ending "a tale of sealed truth" it might have something to do with ven and xehanort. i think that line means that xehanort and roxas's memories are sealed and their memory tells the truth about the past, a.k.a the story of birth by sleep.
     
  10. Jul 30, 2008 #10
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    so when the game acually comes out it better freakin explain hahaha...
    but how do think they will get there memories back....

    and i thought birth by sleep reffered to when naimina put sora in that pod and he was sleeping all that time....
     
  11. Jul 30, 2008 #11
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    i thought that two. the whole Sora sleep, birth by sleep. i still think it's referring to that and the actual game.

    they will probably get their memories back via some kind of writers convience.
     
  12. Jul 30, 2008 #12
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    what do ya mean by writers convience??????
     
  13. Jul 30, 2008 #13
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    you know when they write something in thats overly complicated to explain a series of events. like Roxas getting his memory back by some sort of trial unseal or something weird.
     
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  14. Jul 30, 2008 #14
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    oh ok so its just the confusing writing style.
     
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  15. Jul 30, 2008 #15
    demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    i think xehanort and roxas will somehow unlock their memories by some unlikely event.

    as for the meaning of birth by sleep, i think that when master xehanort was sealed in terra's heart master xehanort was put to sleep somehow and that's how the younger xehanort is created. the same process basically happened with ven, but he did'nt become roxas till kh1. so bassically birth by sleep means master xehanort was put to sleep in terra's heart thus giving birth to young xehanort and ven was put to sleep in sora's heart and in kh1 gave birth to roxas.
     
  16. Jul 30, 2008 #16
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    oh that makes sense... but what could have made them young again... like ur sayin
     
  17. Jul 30, 2008 #17
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    what made Master Xehanort young again was when he took terra's body. then later Terra bacame evil himself by ding that research on the heart. that means he was weakened if he was beaten by sora and he never got his memories back either.
     
  18. Jul 30, 2008 #18
    demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    when master xehanort was sealed in terra it affected terra's appearence, causing him to look like the young xehanort. it also explains why xehanort's heartless looks so much like master xehanort, since master xehanort is sealed in terra's heart and terra's heart is basicaly xehanort's heartless, then xehanort's heartless would take on a younger form of master xehanort who is sealed in his heart. xemnas looks more like terra because he's basically terra's body and soul.
     
  19. Jul 30, 2008 #19
    shewbeeshewbee29-111

    shewbeeshewbee29-111 New Member

    ohhhh and when there eyes in the kh 2 final mix secret ending turned gold do u think they summoned the power of kingdom hearts..

    there probably linked that way
     
  20. Jul 30, 2008 #20
    Twin in Shroud

    Twin in Shroud New Member

    I think that was the power of Darkness but i don't know.
     
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