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MX+DS=Xehanort Identity

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep' started by Angel, Mar 18, 2009.

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  1. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Introduction
    We all know that Terra + MX = Xehanort is a more plausible theory but i beg to differ that it is not certain that Terra has something to do with Xehanort. And we dont have much about DS but i will stretch what i think happened.

    Theory Setup
    Ok MX is the main antagnist in bbs. He calls the DS a man infused with darkness and tells Terra to correct his mistake, that people who submitted to the darkness arent fit to wield the keyblade. MX could have been lieing but lets say its true lets keep this in mind. Next DS is the apprentice to MX ,and Xehanort was an apprentice to Ansem concidence I dont think so. Back to my point,people would ask, how is the DS xehanort with his height well i will answer this with what happened to riku. Do we remember the time riku was possessed by Ansem SoD. Next the lingering sentiment is non canon but does that actually mean that hes not terra.

    Actual Theory
    During the concept video in KH 2 FM with the fight against MX. MX summons KH could the DS possibly take over MX to get Kingdom Hearts himself. He follows whatever MX does so i think its possible that he craves kingdom hearts, that MX was standing in his way. So the DS could have taken over his body and soul sorta like what happened to riku and their appearance changed to the form of xehanort like a younger MX. He could have also stole his Master's name xehanort later to discard it to be called by his new masters name Ansem. Next Ven and Aqua are killed by this new xehanort and then Terra battles Xehanort ending with Xehanort losing his memories and Terra losing his friends. Then in case of Xehanort regaining his memories he chose Riku to be a chosen wielder. Next he stays in the spot of where the battle happens for ten years,probably because of the battle,his lost of over his friends, or the hatred of xehanort and waits for his return. Xehanort lost all his memories and all he remember is the name xehanort. Why he cant wield is because of him being infused with darkness if it is true. Then later on he split into Ansem SoD which would explain his powers from xehanort and his ablities to take over riku. Xemnas possibly sarcastic over aqua armor calling it friend. And both of their craves to get kingdom hearts. Lastly this would mean riku wasnt a chosen wielder for now reason and that Terra is the lingering sentinent,Aqua is in the RoS,Ven is in the RoA, and DS/MX is xehanort.

    Conclusion/Sumup
    Ds is the heart and MX is the body and soul that changes xehanorts appearance. Terra is the lingering sentiment. Terra is the cause of xehanorts memorie lost. Aqua and Ven dies and ends up in the RoS and RoA. Riku was chosen to stop xehanort.

    I have nothing to support DS action for this because of the little we know so it is mostly based on DS's actions towards Kingdom Hearts and MX. So tell me what you think.
     
  2. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Bravo. This theory is good. There are some words that i don't know like RoS and RoA.
    Anyway, we can't know the truth if we don't play the game ;) but this theory could be same as the game told.
     
  3. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Its ok and thankyou

    Im sorry RoS(Room of Sleep) and RoA(Room of Awakening)

    Yes that is true but we have to put bbs on a hold 358/2 days is coming out in May (Japan Release)
    I doubt it but i gave it a shot.:D
     
  4. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    But there is one thing that buzzing my head. Enigmatic Soldier's move is very different than Terra's. None of them are same. Do you think that because the darkness?
     
  5. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Well actually the Lingering Sentiment or Enigmatic Soldier is non-canon but i seriously doubt its terra. I just hate the Terra+MX=Xehanort Theory. Nomura says it doesnt matter if he is terra or not so...But if i had to explain it. It would be Terra either becoming master or sleeping into darkness.
     
  6. Hiro

    Hiro New Member

    I watched the video of Sora's figth against the Lingering Sentiment in KHFM+ over and over again. I think that the Lingering Sentiment is Terra's keyblade acting on it's own. LS doesn't talk like Terra, instead it uses metallic sounds.... the way Terra summons his keyblade is very unusual and it has no keychain, maybe it's connected to his soul or heart. So it could be possible that Terra's body or heart and MX's mind fused together to create Xehanort. I mean, Riku also had Ansem SoD in his heart or body and looked like him during the events of KH2.
     
  7. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Nah my theory wont work back to the drawing board. If MX took over terra he would look just like hisself and vice versa same with DS.
     
  8. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    DS, SoD?

    this is a great theory. i have little doubt that Ven and Aqua are dead since, as Nomura said, the secret ending in KH FM2 is going to be the ending. and we see Ven frozen so perhaps that's when he dies. that just leaves Aqua and how she died.
     
  9. You forget that Nomura has said that the enigmatic soldier battle was not cannon. As in the battle was did not happen, therefore Terra's moves were subject to change.

    Also the dialouge in that battle can still be considered cannon as Nomura only said that the battle was cannon but the dialouge actually has true meaning.
     
  10. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I like this theory. Although I got kinda lost about the part of Riku suddenly not being a chosen wielder. Although since Riku gave into darkness, that explains about how Sora got the Kingdom Key.

    I'm not a big fan of that theory either. But it does remind me of something to disprove that theory if the Lingering Sentiment was a canon fight, and was Terra. If it was Terra, then Xehanort couldn't possess him to become the young Xehanort.

    Although I do like Hiro's thing about Lingering Sentiment being Terra's keyblade. I think it's cool. Although I think they made it have metallic sounds for speech just so they wouldn't have a voice actor. After all, didn't they not leave Xemnas without a voice in KH1 FM?
     
  11. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Sorry I meant riku was a chosen wielder. Its hard to find your own mistakes in a paragraph this big.

    That and many people think that Xehanort and Terra has similar features but appearance can be changed in Kingdom Heart so appearance means nothing unless they look exactly like one another like kairi and xion, roxas and ven.
     
  12. Hiro

    Hiro New Member

    Hm, that's right, I didn't consider that, because I haven't played KH1FM since I'm from Germany....
     
  13. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I haven't played it either. I just watched videos on YouTube.
     
  14. Hiro

    Hiro New Member

    XD m2, but I'm gonna play it soon after finishing KH2FM+
     
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