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Heartless and unbirths....

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep' started by The_Unknown_Master, Feb 22, 2009.

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  1. The_Unknown_Master

    The_Unknown_Master New Member

    There is alot of talk going around about there not being heartless during bbs. You may not see them, but aren't there naturally occuring heartless that have always been around. I beleive that in the ansem reports, i dont know which one, but it says that when xehenort started experimenting on the heart the heartless started spawning out of control. I beleive it also said that the heartless with the crest on them were "artificial" heartless. I don't know, but if someone could find it....
     
  2. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Well i'll tell you what i know but im not looking for it right now. Okay heartless and nobodies werent around during bbs said by nomura himself. Next Xehanort created the heartless by doing his experiments eventually he created artifical heartless and brand them with a symbol which is the heartless symbol.
     
  3. Hiro

    Hiro New Member

    Yep, Xehanort built a machine to "mass-produce" heartlesses, called emblem heartless. The other type of heartless, which were created through experiments on living things, are called pure-blood heartless.
     
  4. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Not only that, the heartlesses & nobodies wasn't around for two reasons:

    Master Xehanort & Terra wasn't combine into one to become the Xehanort that was Ansem the Wise Apprentice & no one didn't lose their strong heart in order to become a nobody. How the unbirths came about, I do not know.
     
  5. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Heres where I disagree MX + Terra = Xehanort the apprentice. Its not certain terra is involve with xehanort.
     
  6. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    we just have to wait for the game: BBS, to come out to see if Master Xehanort & Terra became one then.
     
  7. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Ya right. Why do you think terra fuses with MX?
     
  8. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    the apprentice has Terra's hair, Xehanort's name, and they all have the eyes. plus Terra probably fused with MX to save the worlds from his evil.
     
  9. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Their could be two reasons for this
    Nomura reuses characters and appearance is misleading in Kingdom Hearts. Master Xehanort has yellow eyes, Terra has blue eyes and Xehanort the apprentice has brown eyes.

    How when MX pretty much kicked TAV with one hand and not moving.
     
  10. Roxotho

    Roxotho Banned

    it looked like he actually KILLED Ven, but i heard something bout the unbirths if this will help, i doubt it tho, but here goes: the heartless r evil beings created by lost hearts & go around collecting more hearts, & the empty shell left behind r the nobodies. every1 knows this already. what i heard about the unbirths is they only have 1/2 a heart & 1/2 a shell. i know this sounds stupid, i dont believe it personally, but if it helps...
     
  11. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    You cant take half of a heart or half of a body so that cant work. I just wanted to say that even though you dont believe it.
     
  12. The_Unknown_Master

    The_Unknown_Master New Member

    I agree, that theory is quite ridiculous. I highly doubt that anyone will come up with the correct way of creating an unbirth. It will most likely end up being someway that has nothing to do with what we are thinking about.
     
  13. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    I believe its involved with the soul in some way or form.
    Death hasnt really been mention in KH so since we are older. Im hoping bbs will have this.
     
  14. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Well negative, Ansem The Wise's apperentice, Xehanort experimented with the heart, which spawned heartless,
    that would be after the events of BBS and Before the Events of KH1, i do believe.
     
  15. Hiro

    Hiro New Member

    I have another idea of how the unbirths are created. What if a heart is consumed by darkness but during the process the being dies, and loses the body and the heart? All that's left is the corrupted soul wandering around and becoming a unbirth would make at least a bit sense XD....
     
  16. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Lets hear it.

    Okay if the heart is consumed by darkness it becomes a heartless and the body and soul is casted off then if it dies or defeated the heart goes in a state of suspension.

    When the soul leaves the body the body perishes and maybe even the heart so i kinda agree.

    Your just missing the process something must be applied to the soul for it can become an unbirth.
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2009
  17. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

     
  18. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Ok I edited out.
    Ya hes saying that heartless was around then.
     
  19. The_Unknown_Master

    The_Unknown_Master New Member

    Here's a thought. Since we haven't seen Unbirth's in the older games, what if it was something you could choose to be or something that MX was turning people into. Then when he died or got killed or whatever they weren't made anymore resulting in them not being in the games anymore.
     
  20. VentusSearcher

    VentusSearcher Steam is the only way....

    i think when a person gets erased then they become and unbirth but im just guessing here
     
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