Another Unbirth Theory

i certainly think it might be souls now.

 

never thought of tht good job

 

certainly sounds right, its basic though. Not saying thats bad. But the good part is that you left room for expansion.

 

Yeah...that just leaves me with the same problem as before. What if the heart doesn't have a correlation to the spirit? What if the heart is really a combination of the soul's faculties and one or more of the spirit's? The theory about the heart being this way is beginning to make a lot more sense the more I look into it. The heart remembers, which means memory plays a role (and thus the mind). Feelings are also involved (thus emotions), as well as choice (free will). The heart also has conscience, though...so it would appear that it doesn't correlate with either the soul or the spirit.

If this is the case, the idea that Unbirths come from souls might be possible, but it would be confusing a few essential elements if a heart is directly tied to the soul and the spirit in some way. ...

 

it's a plausable theory, something i had never thought about.

 

Maybe that explains why a The bad Ansem and Xemnas has control of a dark spirited monster and a living mechanical dragon.

 

Hey. What about memory? Does memory have something to do with unbirths? It can be a possibility that it can have something to do with those weird enemies, besides us knowing that Namine is a nobody with the power over memories.

 

Well yeah, ur getting to something Brandon. Because Xemnas really knows a lot about Kingdom Hearts, Hearts, and the nobodies. Well 1) He is the nobody of ansem, and Ansem was the apprentice of Ansem the wise, which he knows just as much as Ansme the wise does. working together over their experiments of hearts and the doors to different realms. 2) He does have the ambition of reaching his goals (Getting Kingdom Hearts) like the evil Ansem, since Ansem turned into a heartless version of himself.

 

Yea, but Namine knows a lot too. She even knew something about Xion & about what happens if memories are "leaked". Also, remember that Maleficent knows a lot about Terra's heart & him falling into darkness too, so the two really have a connection. WHy I chose Maleficent too? Because she told Aqua about what would happens to Terra.

 

Well Kairi is one of the 7 princesses, so that ahs to be a reason why Namine can control people's memories.

 

Kairi being a princess of heart has nothing to do with Namine being able to control memories. It's sora giving up his heart & kairi bringing back sora was the reason why namine was able to control memories. Also, I believe that Maleficent have a lot of connections. Seriously. She had connections with the heartlesses, her bringing back pete from the dimensions, kidnapping the princesses of heart, & now us knowing about her having something to do with the unbirths & about terra's fate. Now she's really one of the main sources of KH.

 

What I meant was, since a person can control someone's heart, a different being of them could control another part of a person (for say, memories). Although part of what you're saying, brandon, is true too

 

Also, remember that a nobody regain their memories over time. IT's possible that Xemnas has regained his memories when he was Terra & Master Xehanort, which might be the reason why in KH2 final mix, he called the armor of aqua in the room of sleep friend. Also, I believe that Maleficent is more of the main enemy than Xemnas, The heartless Ansem, or Master Xehanort because she been causing a lot of terrible events, one which, the people who is making BBS, says that she causes Master Xehanort & his apprentices dissapearences. How Terra & Master Xehanort combined to start the chain of events, we have to be patient, but he might have fallen to darkness like riku did. Not only that, I heard a theory that unbirths are a person's opposite.

 

Then I will have to put a stop to this evil plot! (haha)
Looking at it now, Guess Malificent won''t give up

 

Also, from what I had gained, Xehanort also had some ties with the Princesses of hearts, so I'm guessing he was trying to activate Kingdom Hearts. I'm also guessing that Maleficent heard this through Master Xehanort.

 

Yeah, that's why she wanted to turn everyone into a heartless and maybe get Kingdom Hearts for herself

 

Not for herself. Remember that she got Hades, Ursula & the other villians with her, who was also after that power, but she might have wanted it for herself & it could have ended up in a fight, with Maleficent being the victor.

 

Yeah. I'm pretty sure she would betray all the other villians so she can get wat she want.

 

...erm, yeah. Maybe that's true...sorry to cut off the other topic that got on here (really), but back to the memories one for a moment. I started a thread about memories and their importance ages ago (and haven't gotten back to it much because I've been too busy to research fully). Still the same thing as I was talking about before--memories definitely have a high level of significance. If memories really are connected to the heart (which I expressed in this thread and in others that I think they are)...

"What I meant was, since a person can control someone's heart, a different being of them could control another part of a person (for say, memories)," this theory could have a lot of ground. The fact that Nobodies gain back more memories over time is very interesting. Perhaps this is indicative of their gaining their hearts back to some degree?