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Obesity in young ones

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Sephiroth X Slasher, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. Chocobo Dyl

    Chocobo Dyl New Member

    Thanks Mate.You are very knowlegable on subjects like this.
     
  2. SheShe

    SheShe New Member

    I dont think that it is the school's responsibility to keep kids healthy, they can try if they want, but it generally dosnt work.

    i mean, schools can sell as much healthy food as they want, but kids could just bring candy and soda and fattening foods to school anyway, so even if schools sell good healthy foods, most likely younger kids wont go for it, and in my opinion more kids might start bringing lunch instead of buying because they do not want the healthy foods.

    I mean at my school,(highschool) there is like salad, and fruits and stuff, but they also sell pizza, and spicy chicken sandwitches, and the more fattening foods and they are more expensive, because they know that we will pay for it, and if they dont sell that stuff, they would have a riot on their hands.

    They also took out like half of the vending machines, and sell like less then half the amount of sodas they sold last year, but you know what, we just frekking bring our own stuff, sodas, and bags of chips and such, it is our choice as people not to eat healthy,

    and no matter what schools do they can not prevent obesity, and in my opinion schools that sell healthy foods just sell them because they dont want to get like seued by parents for making their kid fat or anything, like that one lady who sued mc donalds because they made her fat, and she won.
     
  3. Xadimurti

    Xadimurti New Member

    I wouldn't focus this on schools - at the end of the day there's more than one meal served a day. Also, it's not their responsibility to keep the children healthy, they're meant to provide education, not health care. But partly agree with you about the how the government should recognise it, but even then - surely it's the responsibility of the parents/guardians of the child[ren]?
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2008
  4. Chocobo Dyl

    Chocobo Dyl New Member

    been a while since I posted here.

    Now in my school the food is payed for on a weekly basis,we pay £8.50 and the food we get to choose.There is 3 main bits such as chicken curry etc.Then sides salad etc. Then desert. Therefore the method of having fatty foods and having to pay more doesn't work.

    I must say that my problem is now eliminated because I just bring in my own foods.
     
  5. Locogabitron

    Locogabitron Kichi's Squall Leon

    Yes, food should have good meals in their schools as i read the first posts. But there is one thing that we have to agree. Most of their parents have the fault. They should have a balance of food. If the parents of the child don't take care of food, knowing that the kids metabolism is slower than usuall, eventually the kid will suffer obbeese. Ofcourse, the kid has to put a stop to it. So im in both of them.
     
  6. RoxasZ4

    RoxasZ4 New Member

    I think that if a kid is fat and wants to get skinny he will do some exercises or somthing. i think it is stupid that all the skinny kids have to suffer at school and then have all the good foods from the school token away.if people had more self-control they would not get themselves in that perdicament.
     
  7. ü

    ü 30•05•2010

    Its no ones fault at first. Its DNA genetics fault.. And also what allot of people don't know is how hard it is to loose weight. I mean they cant stop eating or they die? Exercise often makes it worse as they just build muscle under the fat. Its difficult

    I think people are over judgmental. Making looking the slightest bit odd a social stigma
     
  8. RoxasZ4

    RoxasZ4 New Member

    well their are diets these people can go on if they really wanted to loose the weight. and if it really came down to it they could get liposuction.
     
  9. ü

    ü 30•05•2010

    Diets don't always work.

    And liposuction, cause everyone has a couple of hundred to spend on a few surgeries..

    I think people are biased of it, or scared that they too will be fat one day. Thats why they all sneer and judge on other people.
     
  10. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    We talking about obesity. Our school already has cheep vending machines. Not a pop or even ice tea in sight unless brought in at lunches. Plus I know in middle school all us girls had a competition for skiniest. I was in the top 5. I think like 3rd.

    6~ 96pound
    7~ 101
    8~ 109

    my current weight~ 111

    Pretty light. I'm under weight. Kind of bad still though.


    Besides that yeah alot of people are fat. Mainly guys. I know what the boys do in marching band. Eating competitions, freshmen upperclassmen races(I swear I run faster than all of them). I only know of one guy in band who I can truely say is skiny.
     
  11. Locogabitron

    Locogabitron Kichi's Squall Leon

    Well, your going to another direction. But, it's true.. Most of the people are obese because of a diseas that are with. But, I tihnk we are talking about children and their food they eat.

    There is a point that children don't think about their physical apprance, and start eating like hell, without thinking what can cause. That's why its both parents and kids fault.

    Who is incharge of the child's health?= His or Her parents
    Who does the effort of changing?= The Kid
     
  12. Mike

    Mike Member

    I wanted to respond to a few points brought up here, but I'm a bit short on time so I won't specifically quote anyone:

    1) "The skinny kids shouldn't suffer at the hands of a fat kid."

    "Healthy" meals benefit skinny kids as much as they benefit fat kids...possibly even moreso. See when a fat kid hits age 20, 30, 40, they start worrying about diseases of comfort. Diabetes, heart disease, that kind of thing. Heavyset people tend to visit the doctor more frequently.

    When a skinny person hits 20, 30, 40, they don't worry about that kind of thing at all...but even if you're skinny, eating fatty foods still poses a risk for heart disease...and this time, you're caught off guard, because you're skinny. Sometimes you don't even know until it's too late.


    2) "It's DNA's fault"

    DNA has always existed, and yet people weren't always obese. It's not our genetic coding that dictates obesity, it's our lifestyle. TV, video games, the computer, all this stuff contributes to society's steady decline in health. To fully study obesity, one must approach a "Biopsychosocial" model of reasoning, meaning yes, DNA plays a role, but we must also consider psychological (depression for instance) and social (low income families eat relatively poorly) factors.


    3) Building muscle under fat may make someone 'look' a bit fatter (take it from me...I've never had a full 6-pack because of stomach fat, but I could usually get like a '2 or 4 pack' with enough work), but it definitely doesn't make you FEEL fatter. Your body responds and you become more healthy. Your arms, abs etc. become less flabby and jiggly, and more solid. Yes, your gut may look a bit bigger, but it's solid...and this solid feeling is itself, motivational (I know from experience). I don't really think the problems are as profound as they seem...the benefits on the other hand, are always there.

    Self discipline is the real problem. Exercise is always a good thing. It never makes it worse, and every little bit counts.


    4) It's not only costly...Liposuction is DANGEROUS! I don't even mean because it's a surgery, it can hinder your health for the rest of your life.

    Here's the idea: You can think of all the fatty tissues in your body as being a giant sponge. If you run the tap in your kitchen sink, and try to 'soak up' the water in the sponge, you'll get a whole lot of the water, but some will 'spill over' into the sink. This represents fat being stored in 'non' fatty tissues, such as the liver (which is very very bad).

    Now imagine you get liposuction...ie. You decrease the fatty tissue in your body. Well, this is like cutting the sponge in half, and now trying to soak up the same amount of water with it...a lot more will end up spilling over in the sink (ie. go into tissues like the liver).

    You may 'look' thin after liposuction...but unless you have a drastic, and I mean drastic, reduction in fat intake, you will live a very short life.

    Statistically, if you're obese enough to want liposuction, then your fat intake is high and you're accustomed to that lifestyle. That means you won't be able to reduce your fat intake enough to remain healthy.

    So in other words...it's dangerous.
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2008
  13. I just think that we need to monitor the obesity situation in America, it's ridiculous.
     

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