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A Small Theory of Mine on the Unbirths

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Destiny, Nov 10, 2008.

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  1. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    Before you read on, I'd like you to watch this video from the Japanese version and probaly will be in the American version if Kingdom Hearts Re:CoM...
    YouTube - KH Re:Chain of Memories R/R Riku's REAL Ending (Riku Theme)

    Now we know that our nobodies are twilight,
    The heartless are darkness.
    and that our keybladers are light.

    We've all stumbled over trying to figure out what the Unbirths are. Well I believe thanks to that videos translation that the unbirths are dawn.

    In the original games before the final mix and re com, we never heard of anything on dawn. Kingdom hearts bbs story line was created during the last steps of fm and re com. This scene is not in the original but in recom meaning it's a possible open of what the unbirths are.

    Tell me what you guys think. I might look into more things on this.
     
  2. Unbirth

    Unbirth LET ME SPRITE YOU

    Not a bad idea though im not sure if thats just Riku saying a small cool comeback or if he really means that there is a Dawn side.
     
  3. Ventus

    Ventus Kickass Keyblader!

    Good theory. Yeah I think you're right. Wait could Kairi be the keyblader of Dawn?
    Sora= Twilight= Roxas (Nobody)
    Riku= Darkness= Riku able to summon heartless in KH1
    Kairi= Dawn= Xion

    BBS focuses on princesses of heart and 358/2 Days focuses on Xion so it all fits to Kairi and Dawn.
     
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  4. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    Not really folllowing, because Sora is light, and Riku is actually dawn, way to dawn, King mickey's is actually dark because his keyblade is the opposite of Sora's, Sora's is from the realm of Light, Mickey's from the realm of dark. Roxas keyblades are twilight. Kairi's is none.
     
  5. Halinmonk

    Halinmonk New Member

    If im right Kairi's Keyblade is called either "Broken Promise" or "Radiant Destiny". Rikus may be called "Way to the Dawn" but what comes before dawn, Midnight, than Twilight. Hears my theory.

    Kairi=Dawn=Light overcoming darkness
    Sora=Noon=Total light
    Riku=Twilight=Darkness overcoming light
    Mickey=Midnight=Total darkness

    Roxas doesn't count because his Sora's Nobody and thats the only reason he can use Keyblades
     
  6. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    wouldnt it be kairi being total light and sore being light overcoming darkness?i say this because kairi,being one of the princesses,cant have a heartless,while sora,having a small amount of darkness,become one,then came out of it with some help from kairi.then again,i guess what you said about kairi would be right because of that,but sora still wouldnt be total light i think.plus even in the dark riku could still use way to the dawn,though i guess it would be stronger when it was purged from him.
     
  7. Plasmos

    Plasmos Plasmos

    The only probably is that not all keybladers are light.
    I'll tell you why.

    • In BBS we've seen MX use the keyblade, but he is evil. =That was your
      flaw.
    • Unbirths are not dawn, because they are called emblems. Thus we will find out more, when Nomura's Interview comes out.
     
  8. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I've seen this scene in the GBA version.

    Anyways, unbirths might be heartless, except a breed that went extinct. That's a guess of mine.
     
  9. Plasmos

    Plasmos Plasmos

    Do you know the difference between a Heartless and an Unbirth.
    I'll tell you.

    Heartless made were in KH1 when AtW apprentice were in there
    lab experimenting on the worlds of hearts. They were so consumed
    by it that they turned into heartless making more.
    Heartless are hearts corrupted by darkness and without a body or a soul. Heartless are Pureblood or Emblem, both reproducing by taking more hearts and transforming them into Heartless. Emblem Heartless were artificially created and are labeled with the Heartless insignia, a heart symbol with a thorny cross. Pureblood Heartless are black shadow creatures born of pure darkness.

    So far we only know that Unbirths are Emblems
     
  10. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I knew all that. But saying that unbirths are emblems doesn't disprove what I think. That would only prove it more.
     
  11. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    Wow haven't viewed this in a while, guys your going way off topic. Your talking about Ansem and Xehanort. The main topic was that I believe that the unbirths might be Dawn like heartles are dark and nobodies are twilight. Please try to get back on topic.

    Plus we don't know if Xehanort is bad, most of our keybladers are light...

    YouTube - Kingdom Hearts 2 - the Final Battle
     
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  12. roxasisamazing

    roxasisamazing New Member

    I dunno but there was somethin bugging me for a while... You remember that Xemnas said that ic darkness and light are eternal, then nothingness must last forever as well. Ive been thinking. The heartless are darkness, nothingness is obviously the nobodies, then I think that the unbirths might be the light that he was talking about... Is it possible that the unbirths are able to twist the light for their own means?
     
  13. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    I've heard this theory before. Its quite genius. But I believe its already been confirmed that the weakest Unbriths are gonna be called Dawns, like the weakest Nobodies were Dusks.
     
  14. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    well me, if this thread is not done, I think that unbriths are still around. just the weak unbriths. the frist heartless we saw in kh1 they don't have heart insingas, and in kh2 the big form of those small heartless don't have heart insignias either. so maybe unbriths aren't really gone. just most of them are, and dawns are really the small heartless just look a little diffrent becasue a real heartless and the experiment one mixed. say what you think.
     
  15. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Kairi is not a keyblade wielder she used rikus way to dawn but with a different keychain.

    You mean Hearts of Pure Light which could include a male.

    Back on the topic.

    Unbirths equal light, they are said to wild and has relation to heartless and nobodies so wouldnt you say that darkness has a key in their creation.
    Heartless-the darkness comes from within the heart
    Nobody-the body and soul fades into darkness

    Dawn-darkness into light,Inbetween darkness and light
    Dusk-light into darkness,Inbetween light and darkness

    I like the idea that the unbirths being dawn but dusk hasnt been covered yet so....
     
  16. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    Well it actually has, dusk doesn't need to be covered yet. However I figured out teh dawn thing, but this is about unbirths not dawn and stuff, so I'll create a new thread for this until then could a super mod or admin please close this?


    EDIt- Whoa I can close my own threads, sweeet... I'm good.
     
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  17. Chocobo Dyl

    Chocobo Dyl New Member

    Ummm, you can delete your own threads if you are VET.

    Just before the thread closes, I would like to add my two cents.

    I've seen this in CoM, the one for the GBA, which disproves most of your theorie as you (I thik) quite rightly say that the plot for BBS was concieved during or just after the making of FM.

    Not to say that it could be wrong, you could be right actually.
     
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