FFX and FFVII Linked?

This is really cool to read all FF X and the VII series are my ultimate favorites and I always loved both storylines
To now discover that there both related it absolutely awesome!

I always felt, and theorised in my head aswell, that this could be the same world, but always put it off to my overactive imigination (as my head usually goes 'If I wrote a storyline I would try to get such connections')
But to find out now that is actually fact I'm loving it!

Really thanks for finding this information and keep us updated indeed
Also cool Zenrot that you started this discussion, we (or I) would never have known all this great info

 

I know, but that doesn't mean that it isn't cool
I'm just glad to read all this, and you starting this brought up all kinds of related great facts

 

u guys are completly wrong about this to a point to where its absurdly offensive to anyone to claims to be even remotely a FF fan.

everyone knows to no FF in the main numbered series it related to one another in ANY way, IE: VII has nothin to do with III, II has nothin to do with VIII, IX has nothin to do with I, IV has nothin to do with XII etc etc etc etc etc etc.

u guys to just try to create a bridge of 2 FF games that doesnt exist nor should it exist. the things you guys are metioning are just complete coensidences, this is absolutely abserd to hear things like this.

If you ppl where in front of a group of huge FF fans and tried to say that the FFs are connected you would look like complete fools. STOP trying to say there connected because they arent, thats just the bottom like, take from some1 whos beat FFI -XII and eagerly awaiting XIII

 

I registered solely to say that this guy is a complete idiot:

Not only has it been confirmed that the DEVELOPERS created a link between the two games (FFVII and FFX) but it was completely logical to believe so considering the evidence at hand.

Try reading the entire thread next time, cupcake. And take it from someone who's been playing RPGs since 1983, including the entire Final Fantasy series: It's completely "abserd" and "completly" "absurdly offensive" to read the kind of horseshit you just posted, especially your line about being "in front of a group of huge FF fans" and looking stupid. I'd say you're in front of a huge group of FF fans right now. Guess who looks like a fool? Psst...it's you.

Oh and even if there was no link and the guy who made this thread was completely wrong, it's still not incorrect, wrong, or bad to speculate. The thread creator never said "this is how it is and that's that!" like you are doing. He came in with a theory and he asked for opinions. Grow up.

I'm not even a member of this community. I found this post through a google search and I was so annoyed I felt the need to register and post this.

 

haha wow, been playing RPG since 83 and still aint learned nothin eh? so u think the FFs are connected eh? mwhahahahahah ohhh thats funny.

 

They are connected. It's a fact. Your opinion is meaningless when the writers of both games came out and said "hi, these games are linked."

 

of course i will, because i dont believe that for one second no FF is connected with one another except for the obvious one that have sequal like x-2 etc

 

I think you're in store for a very unhappy life if this attitude extends to anything else.

I mean, you aren't even displaying fanboyism here. Just rejection of reality, which is the foundation for insanity.

I know there's no getting through to you, but I'll just go ahead and state the following:

- The creators of a work define the work. If the creators of a work say "this is that," then this is that. Period.

- Furthermore, I hadn't even known that the Ultimania guide had the aforementioned interviews before reading this thread. And this theory had occurred to me years ago, when I first completed FFX, well before FFX International even came out. This is a popular theory not because people want to connect the Final Fantasy games at any cost (though maybe that is true for some people) but rather because there was a substantial amount of evidence supporting the theory. It isn't a random interpretation. It's not the same thing as saying "oh, most of the Final Fantasies have Chocobos, so they all take place in the same world." There were very clear similarities between the two games, in philosophy, aesthetic, and otherwise.

- Last, making statements like "if you go up and say this to a huge crowd of FF fans, they'll call you fools" is hilarious considering how popular this theory was among hardcore FF fans. Not every Final Fantasy fan subscribed to the theory, but a substantial amount did. And until the creators said "there is a link," either interpretation was fine.

But after the creators said "there is a link," it's very hard to defend the interpretation you are trying to defend. And you know what doesn't do the job? "You're all fools! There's no link! I'll never believe in a link! Never!" That doesn't mean anything and it just makes you look like a crazy person. It's not even an argument. It's just an admission that you think your opinion matters more than reality. Which is asinine.

I mean, there are people out there that reject retcons outright. And that's fine, I guess; I mean, it is a defendable position. There is logic in suggesting that publishers and designers use retcons as a marketing tool. I could even get behind an argument that the FFX/FFVII link was manufactured by the creators of FFX solely because of the pre-existant fan theory, that they decided to support in favor of fanservice. However, I don't even think of this as a traditional retcon anyway, as the link between FFX and FFVII doesn't actually affect FFVII in any substantial way. It's all external. Somewhat like the theory that the Marathon and Halo series are linked. It ultimately doesn't make a difference as both stories stand on their own. So coming out and stating after Final Fantasy X was released that there is a link between it and Final Fantasy VII isn't really a proper retcon as there was no alteration of any existing element of Final Fantasy VII, just a gamer's perception of it and the game's history. Is adding backstory a retcon?

Anyway, I'm not even sure that's your point. It would be a semi-valid point, but I'm just putting words in your mouth and I probably shouldn't even bother trying to legitmize the silliness you've displayed in this thread. The suggestion that the creators are fools because you're just unwilling to accept a link between Final Fantasy games may even suggest brain damage. I don't mean to be mean, but I don't know how else to communicate my opinion of you. You're a bit crazy.

 

I'm sorry Khthee, I've gotta agree with Drez here. The solemn reason this thread was created was because Zenrot had the feel those two games could be linked, and after a lot of discussing and searching from others we discovered that it was actually true. If it was done for fan's or premeditated doesn't matter, it is the truth, if you want to believe it or not.
It has been stated by the makers themselves, how much more proove do you need to believe it?

I thought I knew you as an reasonable guy But the way you've been acting this last couple of posts I can get why Drez things your a bit wacky
You don't have to like it, but it is just so, FF VII and X series are basicly linked when it comes to land and history and other small details. As a fan I thought you'd love that
Come on, try to see the bright side again and don't get other people get on your bad, my friend

Also Drez; welcome to the forum Hope to see you around ^_^

 

ill tell you what, ima post the link to this forum on many other website, and im gonna show them how pathetic it is that ppl are linking 2 FF games together, and im gonna watch the reaction,

after all, this is a kingdom hearts forum, so so understanding that more, over FF is sorta obvious i guess

 

haha, apparently im absurd =p
well considering my informational sources are from a canon book straight from the creators..well yeah, the only thing I can do is translate wrong but since I have an actual japanese person reading it to me im not worried about that.
now if you were to make your post before ffX came out you would be 100% correct,please, I ask you to go and buy the ff7 and 10/10-2 ultimania books off of ebay or wherever else and read the interviews, im sorry if I offended you with my horrendous FACTS and then my own speculations as a fan of both series though, no sarcasm intended
I have played so much final fantasy that I can almost quote any line from almost any of them =/
please dont disrespect final fantasy veterans
if you actually took the time to read you would know that at first I didnt believe it either, but instead of going on a warpath thinking that I can 'pwn a few retarded ff noobs'
Loki here did his research
so please, send who you want here and ill scan the damn pages of the book and you can try to argue with the creators yourself

 

of course Toph, i remember Shinra in x-2 as well, but thats just Square using the name Shinra again cus it was a big name in a previous FF, doesnt mean that theres any relation, they reuse names alot of FF. its just a reference, and thats it.

i mean, im not trying to be rude here, im not a rude person, i just think putting 2 FFs together is not right. If VII and X are related, then why does knowone speak of the great SIN threat in the world of FFVII? Why is there no Lifestream in X? (Farplane doesnt count).

 

different planet,
every planet in the ff7 universe has a life force

heres my assumption:
after being on a different planet and being with the people indigenous to the planet(ancients) a lot of things would be lost, and on top of that jenova came as well and somehow they lost machina(a technology indigenous to spira)
its sloppy and loose but plausible

play FFX2 international/final mission
there are more missions to do with shinra and how he tries to use the remains of vegnagun to utilize life energy of the planet if you use youtube you should be able to see these missions played through, once more, it is in japanese though...

there are things I like about the connection and things I dont like
either way its what they did =D
and once more, the interviews work against you
shinras descendants find a way to utilize planets life energy after space travel is possible for them (also not the people of ff7's world having an infatuation with space)
he even mentioned how he felt akward realizing that people like rufus shinra are descendants of such a cool kid

if you would like I can post several different translations of the interviews/info on the games in ultimania
or google/reasearch it yourself

I strongly suggest this so that you have a stronger basis of the concept and can begin to debate why you dislike the idea instead of why its wrong

 

im like this, if they 2 worlds are linked somehow, then it would make a big deal about it in the games, and if these 2 FFs are linked, how many other FF games are linked? why would just 2 FF games be linked? im going by the actual games themselves and not books written way afterwards, i dont think, no, I KNOW, 95% of FF fans dont think the 2 are really linked if u think about it. FFs a spiritual sequels to one another, not direct sequels.

i guess FFVI and FFXI are linked as well, eh? or maybe VIII and XII? heh i doubt it >.>

 

traditionally they are not, but dont think of it as one being a sequel to another
they are still seperate and wonderful stories and these two are linked because two special people decided it would be cool

just because two games share a history in the same universe, and are linked in such a way does not change the game
im sure you wont have to worry about sequels explaining the link too much either
its just a canon concept
also remember while FF games are connected by the same company, very few people get to decide the link

I dont see the basis, youre assuming that if 7 and 10 are linked...the rest have to be as well?
its not the case and in most situations you would be 100% correct
normally FF games are not linked in ways that would suggest one is a sort of sequel

so you just have to remember
FF7 and FFX are not sequels, prequels, or any other kind of quel =p