Religion

It is biased, I'm not going to deny that. But it does have a few good points in it. I'm not going to go around saying that being Christian is bad, though. Just as long as you don't go overboard.

And uh... Tape guy?! Don't spam...

 

Haha...I'm sure 'killtheheathens.net' ought to have 'some' good points to it as well.

If the idea's lost on anyone, I'm trying to jokingly create a fictitious site that is the opposite end of the spectrum; One for religious fanatics.

 

Haha. It would have some good points. I'm sure it would point out that Athiesm offers no reason how we came to be, or how life started. It's all very perplexing, no?

 

Atheism would adopt purely scientific views of creation...it's a good guess that's probably not quite right, just like any religious person's idea of creation.

I would actually think the biggest 'advantage' of being religious (and I mean genuinely religious, none of this phony-baloney persecution crap) is the optimism. No matter how 'self-actualized' a person may seem, everyone is afraid of death...in particular, the apparent darkness / lack of life that follows. To look toward death with a smile is an incredible thing...But I'm certainly not smiling when I think of death. Haha

 

see i agree with you mike
i understand that alot of people look to religon as a way to hope for an afterlife
me being an atheist i have a much greater fear of death and which is why i held onto to religon for awhile till i finally got tired of all of its bullshit
i dont look forward to nothingness but i cant believe in a magical wonderland in the skys
no offense

 

lol sma. The last couple sentences were interesting.

It's the same way I was too, in a way. I had religion till I was about 15, then started researching about other religions (Taoism, Shintoism, Christianity and Judaism especially) because I was very curious why there were so many, all having different attributes in terms of beliefs, practices and the like.

Then I got sick of it and decided that it's all extremely repetitive, and it would be smarter to just research and learn as much as I can about it so I can actually form a nice opinion of it. Which I have still been doing these past 2 years. Moreso in the past year, though.

What really needs to be understood is that theories of evolution, like SkylerOcean stated, have no idea of how we started. In fact, throughout the entire theory of evolution, it is just a process of progression (which is literally what the term means). The scientific idea of how organisms started was that small bacteria began to form deep in caves, under ground, in water, etc. Which isn't a bad idea; and as we start to use resources, we start to evolve and take bigger--and sometimes scarce--forms. This isn't really in correlation with evolution at all, and it bothers me when people start yelling at me "EVOLUTION TALKS ABOUT HOW LIFE STARTED AND IT'S WRONG O_O". Simply misunderstood.

And even IF Darwin was wrong about evolution, his theory is very, very obvious and has logical idea's behind it. In fact, we can prove that it is in fact real.

 

yes yes
the bible starts out with 2 diffrent creation stories
that alone annoys me a lot
plus the fact that was recently pointed out to me by a movie my cousin showed shows how plagerized and how much of "Jesus" is based on astrology
its insane
i REALLY dont feel like going into now because my teach is pissing me off but go on google and search Zeitggeist/ZietGhist idk its something close to that
the first part is very good but after that it turns into conspiracy stuff

 

The confusion with evolution is that there are really two types: What I call micro vs. macro evolution.

Micro: Survival, adaptation. (ie. 'the ongoing process')

Macro: We came from monkeys, coacervates, all that jazz. (ie. 'history')

Some silly people tend to think they're one and the same, and therefore since micro-evolution seems plausible enough, we must have come from monkeys, and God is somehow disproven (how is beyond me, but I've heard that before...many times.)

We can never prove history is right. Nor can we prove the present is right. We can only exhibit what we ourselves witness. Though microevolution seems reasonable and explains some of the phenomena we can witness in our day to day lives, we can never prove it's correct. We can only accept it as 'possibly the truth' until we someday inevitably find some flaw and need to alter the theory slightly.

So is the life and times of science.

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I don't know why people can't accept that Jesus existed (at least as a person). It was 2000 years ago, we know people like Alexander the Great existed (from earlier than Jesus) because it can be traced back...2000 years isn't that long.

I'm not saying all the biblical facts are correct, or he was the Son of God or anything like that...I'm just saying he was a person who lived once, and it's not so hard to show that. Maybe he was a crackpot...or maybe not. But he's not 'make-believe' anymore than Hitler is make-believe. (None of us has ever met Hitler either, but we're certain he existed)

 

Jesus did exist. It nearly shames me when I see some other fool athiest running around flaming every Christian saying that Jesus didn't exist. He was alive, but wasn't the son of god.

And have you ever hard the phrase 'To the winners go the spoils'? That's how history is written. The winners control the story.

 

I'd probably jump back in to this debate, but after ready this very last post, I know there's no hope of changing your minds on this issue. You all know what I think, what I believe. God's real, Jesus is the Son of God.

I'm done here.

 

i didnt really flame christianity
so dont start with me or i really will flame it
i understand if you believe in it you want to
i dont
and another thing dont call me the fool if you cant prove jesus's existince either
there were cases of historians around that time who said he existed but they were proven to be fake

 

I never called you a fool. No foolish things being said here, only our own opinions and beliefs. I may not agree, but everyone has a right to their own beliefs and values.

 

Well I am Buddhist and I believe in Buddha because I know for a fact that he exist. He was a prince in Nepal, he escape from the luxuries of being a prince and went to mediate. He found his true self and passed his teachings.

I do believe in God, because we are raise in a God's Nation. I learn that I can not convert anyone in believing in something that I believe in. I learn to respect each other religion and learn about it. I do believe that Jesus do exist. Even though we do not have proof, all the proof we have is in our heart and soul. If we do acknowledge his existence therefore he does exist.

The thing that gets me is the Bible. I am not bashing the Bible or anything but why follow it? As a Buddhist, we learn thing from trial and error. Of course all major religion have books to follow. Books to tell us what is the right thing and what is wrong, but the Bible denies people, yes I am talking about gays and other people who do not believe in the same thing, i.e. atheists. I haven't pick up a Bible and begin to read it, so I have no say on rather it is a good book or bad book. Buddhists believes that anyone no matter what they are, gay, straight, handicap, or anyone should be treat with love and respect. We should respect people. We do have the same concepts as Christians, Jews, and Catholics.

So if God is merciful and kind, why would He hate gays?

 

A common misconception about Gods is that they are kind and loving. If anything, they are the opposite.

Now before somebody comes in and flames me for this and says: "lol ur stoopid. t3h bible sez dat god luves everybude!", let me remind you that the Bible has rare cases of him actually loving people. It usually includes stoning gays and crusades.

 

Who says? The bible? ...doesn't really prove anything.

 

Religion and science are practically the same thing, just different paths to take along the road to enlightenment. Religion is based on one's idea's that their selves can further exist beyond the usual realms, and using what the religion has given is a testament to its truth. And science has actually proven the existence of a god....... not entirely of course buy that matter can be created from nothing, just read angels and demons by dan brown. I know that the book is fiction but having studied particle physics and quantum physics a bit, the equation is there, but the only factor is that their just isn't enough power on Earth to supply the reaction. Even though the particles come from no where which is supposedly impossible, the reaction does actually take place with the right atmosphere and energy pusles, it sorta rips the whole Einstein's first law apart.

 

The bible and other religious books are really the only things you could trust to give you an idea about Gods. It's one of the few things that they can be used for.

But, of course, you disproved yourself. There is not enough energy on Earth for you to actually carry out what this equation is. So, the equation is just theoretical and cannot be proven. So it's irrelevant.

 

You forgot your heart. That's probably why you have trouble grasping the concept, you're not looking inside yourself. (This comment probably sounds pretty lame...but the lameness of it is evidence that today's youth is taking a step in the wrong direction). Your heart/soul is the best connection to the supernatural there is: better than anyone else's recollection, or teachings.

As for Dan Brown...I've never taken his books so seriously, since they tend to just plain get their facts wrong. I mean, even things like names or places, or who died where and how. I just personally don't trust their scientific claims if they get things like that wrong.

EDIT: Just as a footnote to Skyler's post: Just because you can't prove something doesn't make it irrelevant...there are probably quite a few everyday examples to back this up, but I don't want to sound like a broken record.

 

Im sorry but I have to say that looking into yourself you are going to find nothing but an empty nothingness. You have to have a relationship with God for there to be anything. Only after knowing him, will you be able to know what God wants for you and your life.

 

^^God has a relationship with all his children. Many just tend to turn away.

God denies none the opportunity to get to know Him...just as He denies none the opportunity to accept or reject what they find.