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Looking at Dissidia Characters in the future

Discussion in 'Dissidia: Final Fantasy' started by Tetiro, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    The cast of X-2 has skills? All I remember them doing is high-fiving each other and striking poses.

    In all seriousness, X-2 seems to be almost universally disliked. I've seen very few people admit to enjoying it. I wouldn't think S-E would put in a character from that game when they could use someone with more of a fan following. And the abilities the characters have in that game aren't really anything special.
     
  2. Kit

    Kit New Member

    Not entirely true. If they used the X-2 version of Yuna, they could either

    A) Make her like the Onion Knight, where she dresses in her most recognized outfit (gunslinger) and uses moves from all her different dresspheres, or

    B) make her more like Cecil where different attacks would change her to different dresspheres, giving her different movesets, or even

    C) make her like Lightning is going to be (as far as I've read) and give her the ability to change dresspheres at will (by pressing L and R), giving her entirely different fighting styles.

    In short, there are several ways they could make FFX-2 Yuna work, and they could even come up with something entirely different. Oh and *coughcough*IlikedX-2*coughcough*
     
  3. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME KIT! Besides, there are over 20 different dresspheres. She may be a summoner but she don't have to be based off of FFX alone. She may be like Lightning where she can go from her gunner form to her summoner form to use white magic to another different dressphere. Her ex mode can be her Floral Fallal dressphere. I don't find FFX-2 that bad. It is just that the mini games and some of the battle styles are not that exciting.

    OH YES! Rikku should also be an A. She is up there with Tidus and Yuna. I am surprised that Paine is not added in this mix.
     
  4. Tetiro

    Tetiro New Member

    Okay guys I'll bump Yuna up to an A. Seeing as it makes sense
     
  5. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    :( But you went and forgot all about Rikku. She is nothing like Lulu. She don't even need Wakka to help her. "She's just Rikku"-Tidus.
     
  6. Tetiro

    Tetiro New Member

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm removing Vaan from the list. Why? He's in 012!!!

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  7. Roxion

    Roxion New Member

    if his strength in FFTA2 is any indication of his actual strength, he should be interesting to play as.
     
  8. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    O.O If Vaan is in 012... do you think that Penelo will be in the group? All of you may try to counter this but FFVII have more than two characters: Cloud, Sephiroth and Tifa. FFXII might be the same way.
     
  9. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    There's nothing special about Penelo. I'd think if they were going to add another XII character, they'd pick one with some personality. Not to mention that Penelo was like so far removed from the events of XII that I can't see why they'd choose her as a representative. They could seriously have left her (and Vaan, come to that) out of the game entirely, and we wouldn't have missed anything. Terrible characters.

    If it were me choosing, I'd probably have gone with either Basch, Ashe, or Balthier as the rep from XII. Forget Vaan.

    VII also has a huge boatload of fanboys.
     
  10. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I think that Vaan is a good character. Gabranth did killed his brother after all. Penelo might be the "Tifa" version. Besides, Tifa have no reason to be in the game but they decided to throw her in it anyways. Tifa is cloud's support and Penelo is Vaan's support. Both of them are friends. Gabranth killed someone that Vaan cared about and Sephiroth killed someone whom Cloud cared about. See the similarity?
     
  11. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    No, I don't. The difference is that Cloud was actually necessary to his own game, and Tifa, though I disliked her, had a personality and her own role in VII. Cloud was obviously the main character of the story, not just the one you controlled for gameplay purposes. Penelo served no purpose. Vaan, after the early parts of XII, served no purpose. Of all the characters S-E could choose to represent XII, those would be the last two I think make sense. Even Fran was more important to the plot.

    And as I said before, FF VII has fanboys. I would say that it is the best known FF and the one with the most outspoken fanbase. Why else would we have Advent Children, Before Crisis, and Crisis Core while games like VIII and IX haven't been touched? S-E would throw in an extra VII character in Dissidia because they know VII is popular (look how many VII characters are in KH). Not so with XII.
     
  12. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    But don't you think that it makes sense that Vaan and Penelo also had their own roles in FFXII. Both of them are orphans who have suffered from the war. The two are the closest of friends (much like Cloud and Tifa) and the two wants to get back at the Empire for making the people's life miserable.
     
  13. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    They really didn't have much of a role. You could've had the same game without them. They really aren't necessary characters. Their only use is Vaan being one of the best characters stat wise and Penelo being the best Magic character.
     
  14. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    No. The story of XII is mainly the story of Ashe and Basch, with Balthier and Fran as the more important supporting cast. Vaan and Penelo may be good friends, but what purpose do those friends have in the story? Penelo's sole purpose in the game as far as I can remember is to get kidnapped so that Balthier and co will travel to Bhujerba (sp?). Vaan's purpose is to unite the other party members in the beginning of the game. After he does that, he could have disappeared and taken Penelo with him and no one would miss them. In fact, I remember hearing that S-E had originally intended Basch to be the lead character of XII, but added in Vaan at the last minute because the Japanese love their effeminate males. It makes sense, with his lack of development and all.

    And since I'm already heading toward off topicness, I might as well go ahead and say that in the context of just FF VII, I don't consider Cloud and Tifa good friends at all. They knew each other, vaguely, as children- Cloud had a crush on her, but Tifa never seemed to pay him any mind. They met up again later, and it seemed the roles had been somewhat reversed but it was never very developed, imo. And anyhow, Cloud is obviously the lead of VII, and Tifa had a role outside of a love interest as a member of AVALANCHE, and she had that whole past with Sephiroth burning down her town and killing her dad and all that. It was personal with her, and the gamer was made to care about it (or at least, the average gamer who liked Tifa). Penelo's backstory wasn't so well done.

    All this rambling is just to say that you cannot equate FF VII with XII. VII is a much more popular game, and for fanservice and monetary reasons, S-E would pimp out those character more often than they would those from other games. And if for some unknown reason S-E were to happen to decide that FF XII needs another character represented in Dissidia, Penelo would be the worst possible choice, both because the characters in that game were all interchangeable in battle, so she didn't stand out (despite, I suppose, having the best magic stat) and because her story is so completely unimportant to the whole of XII that I can't see her as the spokesperson. It'd be like choosing Heideggar as the villain representing FF VII instead of Sephiroth. Makes no sense.
     
  15. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I guess so but it is still a possibility. The company thinks of Vaan as the main character of the whole game anyways.
     
  16. Tetiro

    Tetiro New Member

    I'm afraid Laguna is off the list. Why? HE'S IN DISSIDIA!!!!!!!

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  17. Roxion

    Roxion New Member

    who's he? where's he from?
     
  18. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    =D If he is in there...is it possible for Edea to be in there too.... hee hee hee...Thank you Tetiro. You have made my day.
     
  19. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Play FFVIII.
     
  20. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    ??? I wonder if they will add Yuna in there. Still, I WANT TO SEE EDEA!!
     

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