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Video Games/Violence

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Magilicudy, Dec 4, 2009.

  1. Magilicudy

    Magilicudy New Member

    people say there is a connection between teens playing violent video games and growing up to kill or rape someone and go to jail. do violent vid games send people to jail? discuss.
     
  2. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    No. Video games don't have an effect like that. Not on their own. When used in conjuction with being raised in a bad environment and being abused and whatnot, it might have an effect. But I doubt even that.
     
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  3. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Nah. I'm a teen who plays Prince of Persia & the likes & it don't have no affect on me. I guess it depends on the person, but video games don't make a person kill or rape.
     
  4. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    This is a speech I wrote for my oral communication class:
     
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  5. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    No. People send themselves to jail by their own actions. Even if the violent video games somehow warped a person's mind into thinking violent behavior was okay, that person still had to decide to commit the crime that he did.

    Exactly.

    I do not believe that video games have any measurable effect on violence. I think people like to use it as an excuse so that they don't have to take responsibility for their actions. In a deeply disturbed person, perhaps spending a lot of time surrounded by the violence you'd see in some games might push him or her that much closer to a freak-out, but I doubt it. For myself, stabbing some hooker during Grand Theft Auto doesn't make me inclined to try my luck with a real blade out on the streets.

    And really, why pick on video games? Television and movies are just as violent, and I would argue that people are exposed to those much more often than they are video games.
     
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  6. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Or you can blame it on the advertisements & the strip clubs. Besides, there are teenagers who beplaying E games & E+10. How in the world games like those twist people's minds to be violent?
     
  7. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    I don't think those are the games people are talking about as posing a problem.
     
  8. Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    I'm not a mod but wasn't that a little over the top? I'm certain by your post you know what you were talking about.


    Anyways, i play a lot of violent games. Yay violence. Do i act out violently? Heck no.
     
  9. Moogle

    Moogle Well-Known Member

    And plus, video games allow the player to work out transgressions or stress that they otherwise wouldn't be able to in real life. I've had many a day where I just go full on cheat mode in GTA and destroy everything in sight.
     
  10. RebelMurf

    RebelMurf Hero of the Wild

    Well I believe that the video games don't actually cause you to do the violent things that could have you sent jail. But they can influence your mind. I know this for myself. When I was in my early teens i used to play the violent and non-violent video games. And i never thought that they could effect me in any way except as Moogle has said relive stress. Needless to say i was a rather angry teenager when i was younger. I never thought it was games it just always occurred to me that the reason i was always angry at my younger siblings was because they would push me over the edge. Which to me made a hell of alot of sense.

    I was talking to my father about it one day and he told me that he had looked into it and found that a study had been done on the exact subject. He told me that the studies showed that people who played video games were more likely to become aggressive when a situation showed itself to the person. And then he challenged me to not play video games for two weeks and see if i noticed a character change within myself. Me been one who loved video games thought it to be a rather stupid challenge but been the sucker for them that i am accepted. At first i found it somewhat difficult but then just substituted video games for reading or spending more time with friends and my personal favourite weights. The two weeks had passed and when my dad asked me had i stuck to it and if i noticed and change i thought about it.

    I was generally getting on better with my family and friends, i had alot more patience for the small things which would usually set me off into a blind rage.

    So my answer is no video games can't make you do stupid stuff that would get you thrown in jail in moderation.
    But overplaying any video game can effect the mind in ways you might not even notice.
     
  11. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Ask me if I care. If a mod feels they need to censor it, they can go on ahead and do it. Makes no difference to me. *shrugs*

    I think this is a very good point. Rather than cause more violence, I can see how video games could be a "therapy", or at least an outlet for a person's anger/stress.

    The only way I think violence in video games is a problem is when children too young are exposed to it. And this is where the parents need to step in and see what they are buying and letting their kids play. Don't buy your 7 year old a game rated M and then be shocked if they start running around the house pretending to kill things. :rolleyes:

    Edit:
    Kairu, do you have a source for this, or know where your dad found it? This is interesting to me.
     
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  12. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    No, Toph wasn't wrong for using 'Dumb Ass.'

    To be fucking honest, every time I poke my head into the Open/Closed Minded thread or the 2012 thread, I feel like using that terminology EXCESSIVELY.

    Anyway. Society teaches and forces most boys to grow up playing with cars, little toy men with ripped abs and guns, so the violence in games is a newfound way of continuing those market patterns. Does it lead to real life violence? If they have a shitty home life where there's a lot of abuse, then the game might provide a potential outlet or whatever.

    But there are also significant differences when you blow someone's brains out in a game, where everything's okay, opposed to having a human life dripping off of your hands when you shoot them in the mouth.
     
  13. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Ha ha. If I said half of what I was thinking when I read some of those posts, I'd need a whole lot more censoring.

    I suppose I can understand where the violent game haters are coming from, to an extent. But I think ultimately it comes down to a choice that the player makes. If the player chooses to commit crime, whether because they think it's cool because the protagonist of their favorite game does it, or because they've become so used to seeing violence that they don't care, or what have you, he or she is still responsible for that action, not the game.

    I can remember a few years back, some kid got arrested for killing some people (I think it was his parents), and his attorney tried to blame video games as a part of his defense by saying the games blurred his ability to distinguish reality. Anyone that affected by a game had some serious problems beforehand. It's ridiculous to me to try to put the blame on the games or the companies that made the games.
     
  14. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    Please refer to my first post. Inside the quote, paragraph two.

    You're fathers challenge is a nice thing, however results are going to vary from person to person.
     
  15. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    i think video games make some ppl want to do things in the games. like have guns or like bombs and hurt things or ppl.
     
  16. Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    Autopsy is mean. Xd

    I think it really boils down to the person. If you have a lot happening and you take it out on games, you might find yourself taking it out on other people to. When you get really stressed you become a lot easier to influence, so violent games could make you think unconsciously, "Man i wish i could do this to the people that ticked me off."

    But if you aren't really stressed, and you're just playing for the fun of it, then i can't say that you would be easily influenced by it. Basically, for fun is just for fun and nothing comes of it except some killed time.
     
  17. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    I agree with your post to an extent; however, I think there is a HUGE difference from saying "I wish I could do this to the people who tick me off" to actually doing it.

    I do not think that video games influence normal, mentally healthy people into acting violently.
     
  18. Chocobo Dyl

    Chocobo Dyl New Member

    Well, I don't think that video games have a strong impact on the mind. I doubt that a Team Fortress 2 addict would start throwing jars of his own excrement at his friends. However, I believe that video games can build positive skills on people.

    In many RPG's and MMORPG's people can learn about money management, in some FPS that reward players who live longer (Modern Warfare 2 as an example) players can learn about survivability and leadership.

    Besides, this argument can and has been raised with just abot anything. Does D&D effect peoples minds? Does horror films effect peoples minds?
     
  19. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    That's because no one wants to take responsibility for their own actions. Video games, as well as the other examples you mentioned, just make a convenient scapegoat.
     

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