Obama's Green Job Czar is a Self-Proclaimed Communist

o wow so what he was going to help out. where do you draw the line, are you hating on him cause of him choice to be something your not, cause he's different. he was trying to help out! so what if he's like this or that, if he's not trying to kill people or do bad and he help this place than i'm good with him.

 

Tell me summonerbrandon, where do you draw the line? Where do you say enough is enough?[/quote]

<.> Oh HELL NO! To me, that felt like an insult! Where do I draw the line?! What the freak?! I give people love & a chance to do better. There is no line! I don't want to get caught up in politics, but there's one thing that I never do! I NEVER WANT TO JUDGE A PERSON BASED ON WHAT OTHERS DID IN THE PAST!!! Soviet Union?! FORGET THAT! What the heck has that got to do with Van John?! Huh?! Tell me! You went & started hating on Van John & other czars just because of what happened in the past. WHAT'S DONE IS DONE! In Yukou's (A.k.a Morphine) saying, F*** THAT & LOOK AHEAD! Just because czars in Russia do something differently does not mean that they're bad & that they're unamerican! LOOK AT VAN JOHN! HE WANTED TO MAKE AMERICA BETTER WHEN HE BROUGHT UP THE TALK ABOUT USING SOLAR ENERGY! To me, you is being racist & have a hatred on czars, who are russians, who are also humans. Van John was trying to make a change regardless of what his personality is, but you & others wanted him gone!

Go to this link. Controversy over fiery remarks fells Obama adviser - Welcome to Charter.net Van Jones said that on pg two that if he offended anyone in anyways during his speech, that he's sorry, but it's the Republic, that still wanted him to go. It's just like Van John said. They're using lies & distortions to distract & divive. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE IN HIS HEART?! Where do I cross the line?! I have nothing to do with this! I want to see goodness flow in America & not only that, AMERICA NEED TO MAKE PEACE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES! Sadly, from you stating that you hate socialism, communism, & czars, I find it hard for this to come to fruitation. Where do I say enough is enough?! What am I'm suppose to say?! I don't go around saying "VAN JOHN MUST LEAVE! HE IS RACIST AGAINST WHITES!" -_- Even though he said things that can offend people, his ideas would've been good!

 

Wow. Summerbrandon actually defended himself. Bravo.

Well, SK, even though you hate communism and socialism, you still have to give people a chance who come from that ideal. After all we are immigrants. My father came from a socialist country.

 

<.> This just disgust me, but makes me more upset that you has so much hatred on Van Jones. I thanks wikipedia for this link. YouTube - Andre Carr "Saved and Playin Church" Music Video
LEARN ABOUT HIS LIFE STYLE & THE GOOD THINGS THAT HE DID IN THE PAST! Not only that, HE IS NAMED AS ONE OF "ENVIRONMENTAL HEROES"! Thank God that grace & mercy is watching over him! I don't even know how you went & brought czars into this being because he's just a African American who was born here! Can you stop having such a hatred against Van Jones, czars, socialism & communism & learn to learn more about him?!

 

<.> WHAT THE HECK?! Why do you kept on having the mind of thinking that America will become a communist country?! I did my research on him & he did a great job that even you can't even apprehend. Not only that, you went & brought up that he's a traitor to America & YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY HE WAS A PART OF THE WHITE HOUSE SINCE MARCH OF THIS YEAR! Did Obama or Van John said that they want a communist country?! HECK NO! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL! Even though Van John is a communist, his ideas to make America better is good! America has a little bit of communism in it. WHY?! Read that wikipedia link about what Van Jones saw during his years at Yale & compared it to what he saw on the streets & you'll see why. Obama don't want a communist country & I know that Van Jones don't want a communist country even though he's a communist himself.

Also, there was no talk about socialism or them wanting a socialism country. What makes you think that Van Jones want that in the first place?! I did so much research on him & not one word where he said he wanted communism or socialism. NOT ONE! I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW RUSSIA CAME INTO THE DEBATE IN THE FIRST PLACE! What the heck does Russia has to do with Van Jones?! Cross out Russia & throw it in the trashcan! THROW OUT THE PART ABOUT RUSSIA'S CZARS BECAUSE I FIND THIS NOT IMPORTANT! VAN JONES IS NO EMPEROR! What is he's an emperor of? This is about Van Jones, socialism & communism & no other! Maybe it's what he saw years ago is why he's a communist.

Whatever the freakin reason is, you need to stop jumping to conclusion, yelling about "I'M A AMERICAN & I HATE VAN JONES & I THINK HE'LL MAKE THIS COUNTRY TO BE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY!" <.> America is not there to being a full democracy country yet SK. We the people! We ourselves decide what'll happen to our country! If 30% of America is not abiding by the democracy system, America is not fully democractic. Remember that I said that communism & democracy is basing on equality. Socialism is based on unequality & I definitely know that Obama & Van Jones don't want that. It's not about what they are or what they say SK. It's about their job & what they say they will do for the good, NOT THE BAD, of the country. Sure. Van Jones said some things that he really didn't mean to say, but you is trying to call Van Jones, who is known to be one of the Environmental Heroes, a traitor & I don't see any traitorous things in him or left behind in his wake. <.> This is bringing back memories of Dod acting like TK who was bashing on Obama & had Yukou (a.k.a. Morphine.) get involve in it & it wasn't preety. Van Jones is all about having green, or in other words, advancing energy efficiency & to use more renweable resources. NOT ABOUT WANTING AMERICA FOR COMMUNISM OR ANY OF THE SORT!

 

I read up aobut him today and i am really impressed, his ideas and ways on how to do them are to good to be true, in my mind,(sry dont know how to make links to back it up.) and soul knight close this for what, it a debate and you are just being a discriminating racist upped white rich idiot. i really dont care about the czars, i like them really, i thinks that it's good that there helping America to make it better, obama is trying to fix all the old presidents mistakes in four years. or less. forget the majority of America they can go jump off a lake if I care. and it looks like you cant draw a line at your ignorant self. so just close this if you want but let me say this,

would you rather have the dude that is trying to help America become the good place as you have described or a real communist t that is trying to destroy America and make it become worse than it is.
and for the record, i think your a real something that i wish i could say.

 

I thought my post might have been bigger. Oh well.

No, America is not an Imperialist nation.

Deffinition of Imperalism:

America hasn't made a colony. Ever. America started out as a colony, but that's it.

Yes, it's crap. But that's life. Anywhere you go, you'll find that or something worse. You can't avoid it, no matter what country you go to.

Every form of government is amazing... On paper.

Communism: Everbody is equal.

Socialism: Everybody helps one another.

Democracy: Everybody has a say in what goes on in the country.

Republic: Similar to Democracy, but I forget what it really is.

Anarchy: No rules.

Capitalism: You have the opprotunity to go from having a crappy life to a very good life.

It is that everybody is supposed to be equal.

And another thing. I remember reading in one of Autopsy's posts that a Democracy here in America doesn't work well anymore. But that is because of the amount of people in America. The more people who live in a country of Democracy, the harder it is for true Democracy to take place. Back when America was first an actuall country, Democracy worked so much better because there were so fewer people, giving everybody a better chance to have a say in things.

 

Oh, of course we have colonies;
They're called international sweat shops. We just don't give them that name.
And of course, things much worse.

And SK,
You do realize that companies + our own government have been creating loopholes in our beloved constitution for more than a century, right? It's even more prominent today because of our appetite for wanting more power than we can handle. But still, we cross borders anyway.

Also, it really doesn't matter if anyone's a communist. They're not going to do any harm to anything. Capitalism has royally fucked us over, why can't you understand that?

And communism and socialism didn't work in other countries because the people on top didn't like the fact that everything was being equally distributed. And they got greedy, plain and simple. I should also mention that communism wasn't the 'end' of Russia. Other domestic factors caused that, not the system itself.

I should also add that our constitution clearly states that "all men are created equal."
So I suggest that you take another look at that little example you gave about the drug dealer not having the same rights as any other citizen, and explain to me how that's constitutional or how that's "fair."

Anyway. No one here is going to steer away from their perspective in this thread.
I say that we move onto another topic, honestly.

 

Hey... Gives me a reason to hunt somebody down (The stupidity of the people who say these things that Soul Knight put above).

And the main problem with Czars is that they are allowed to bypass the 'red tape' that prevents our Legislative and Executive Branches from immediately doing things.

 

O.O WHITES ENSLAVED?! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Not only that, we, THE PEOPLE, have the power to decide who'll be our president or not & I know that he don't have the qualities that we need as a president. Not only that, the judicial branch, in other words, Van Jones' powers as a president would be limited & the legislative & executive branch can overthrow Van Jones if he even tries to remake America for the worse. Does that answer your question?

 

First of all, that will never happen. As you stated earlier, the American people will be outraged. Remember people vote for the president. You are simply hating on him because he came from a communism country. But he has to follow American's LAW and POLICIES, if he gets a job here.

Stop making babies. JK. There is a lot of babies being born each year. Expecially parents who are on welfare or on some government help. I am generlizing here, but I give you an example.

My aunt and uncle. They have very busy jobs. One is an mechanical engineer and the other one works in an office. Once they wanted a baby, they had to planned on how it will interefere with their busy schedule and how to work around it with a baby. So they had one, and it work out fine. Then they had a second one.

Most parents who work a steady job, doesn't want 5+ babies.

A parent who is on welfare and working a unsteady job has more opportunties to take care of babies. So they have many.

Another example is that bitch on 19 and counting. Some one needs to go up to her, and tell her stop getting pregnant. She is like popping babies out every year. Either have sex with a condom or birth control pill or get your tubes tied.

 

DX Yukou. He's not from a communist country. Van Jones was born here in America.

 

??? What the freak? all of the branches have equal power with limits on them. There is no emergency power SoulKnight. The congress & government can kick him out of office. Remember the Nixon incident & Bill Clinton incident when they're trying to kick them out of office, but they resigned before that happened? They can try to do that to Van Jones to if he was president.

 

It's people like me who see things that we know will most likely will not happen. We can see what might be good for America & the world. It doesn't matter what the majority says, it's their opinion. You keep on bringing negative things while making up negative examples of what Van Jones might do & I can see that he can never change America to bad. First off, did he even tried to run for President? Ask me that? No he didn't. He was trying to make America better with green. Why are you so obdurate, or in other words, stubborn, of wanting to see the negative instead of the positive & to see which side outweighs the other?

Besides, congress won't even give him emergency powers because of things he said in the past that he might not have meant to say.