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Hmm... Maybe?

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Haresuno, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    I don't know about you guys, but I've seen/heard about other forums that dedicate themselves to RPing as a whole group. Like they'll take a theme -in this case KH- and give stat sheets, technique lists, etc. and RP as a site.

    So I was wondering if we could do something like that. What would happen is that we would need an application staff to look over submitted characters and help make new character realistic and unique as well as.

    We would need a list of techniques -such as spells or keyblade feats. We would also need to dived people into factions -as we already have with the Heartless, Keyblade wielders and such.

    The thought came to me because of this other site I'm on and I know a lot of people try and incorporate ideas from other sites that seem to work. I asked myself: "All these single RPs are great and creative, but what if we had one giant RP that everyone could participate in?"

    What this other site does is have factions and within those factions are divisions. Each division has a leader, a second in charge, and so forth and so on. But what really gets me is the dedication these guys have for this RP. Divisions collaborate writings, so you don't have a mass of RPs all over the place. Everything has an area to go to and it's like you help write an actual story.

    I'll give you guys more details as we go because there's so much to touch on and I can't gather all of my thoughts at the moment, so if you ask questions I'll answer them to the best of my ability.
     
  2. Plasmos

    Plasmos Plasmos

    So your basically saying revert this forum into a "ROLEPLAY FORUM" as a whole?
    I don't like the idea, because not everyone here RP's, and about the staff application, right now, there having some problems/rearrangements within the staff atm. So I'm not to sure about this idea.
     
  3. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    Not everyone has to participate, it'd mainly be for the people who are interested in RP. It's not like we'd be saying "Hey you can't come here unless you wanna RP".

    EDIT: And also the review staff doesn't need to be the staff that's already up.
     
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  4. Plasmos

    Plasmos Plasmos

    I still don't like your idea about wanting the forum to revert into an RP forum. What's going to happen to all the other forum topics ppl would like to address on. We'll drastically lose members, and then everything would be screwed over. I myself like the general topics we have here.
     
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  5. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Um... I really don't like this idea. Besides, we have clans & we also like to make stories, poems, & make graphics. Making this completely just a rp forum is, well...
     
  6. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    Just because there would be a large RP going on doesn't mean we would have to sacrifice those topics. Those topics can still go on, but for people who want to RP there would be a massive RP they could join in and -depending on the contribution from the members- it wouldn't have to die out like so many of the other RPs.
     
  7. Plasmos

    Plasmos Plasmos

    That didn't make sense, you just answered your own question, why would want a FORUM just about RPing if there are other general discussions as well. It's not adding up. Why don't just suggest that they should add more RP sections to the RP SECTION itself.
     
  8. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    Look I just thought it be a nice idea to incorporate a massive RP for the RPers. This other site I picked the idea from isn't hindered from the RP. It's general section and that stuff thrive.

    EDIT: And I'd give you all an example to browse through but that'd be advertising.
     
  9. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    All the people who joined due to it being a KH forum would be let down as it would become a KH RP forum. Some people may want that but that is not what this forum is about.
     
  10. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    Look, you guys seem to think that I want to take down everything and build this up around RP. What I'm suggesting is a massive RP that RPers could join, based around KH. We have all these single KH Rps floating around when we could have a giant one and if someone wants to add an idea for a branch off or what have you the lead RPers take it into consideration or something.

    I don't want to abolish what's already on KH-3 but I want to build something to get the RPers active again. Something they'd look forward to working on.

    EDIT: I'll try and explain a little more about it.

    Starting with character creation.

    If you were, lets say, a Keyblade Wielder. There could be a racial sheet for that.

    Example:

    Haresuno: Keyblade Wielder Novice Level

    Keyblade Mastery: 20
    Spell Mastery: 20
    Support Spells: 30
    Offensive Spells: 30*

    *These numbers would be -for starters- based off of a set number to be distributed through the points. Also these categories are subject to change based on the race and other stats that might want to be incorporated.

    Heart: 0*

    *Heart is basically your exp. You gain exp by writing and participating in Plot Missions and collaborations with other members. I'll get more into that in a bit. The name doesn't have to be the same for all races.

    These stats give you an idea of what your character can and can't do. If you have a K.M. of 20 I don't think you'd be going up against King Mickey. ;D

    These stats would also dictate what skills you can learn or know. There would also be racial traits like Overdrive for K.W.

    If you want to you could compare this to -sadly- D&D to an extent. The difference is that you are relying more on writing than vocal words and representations of miniatures or layouts. Then again we have the plus of media such as the games or Youtube to help with visualization.

    Now as far as stats improvement we would need a team of graders to go through each factions writings -which would be noted in title headings such as "[KW] Week 1: Creative title here" [example only]

    The reviewers would go through the writings make notes and then at the end of a week -or two weeks- they would post grades.

    Grades would be determined by [example] creativity, flow, grammar and the such.

    These grades can also be increased by bonuses such as Plot Mission bonuses, Consecutive bonus -e.g. writing for two weeks straight-, and natural bonus. The natural bonus would be something distributed by the heads of faction through the faction members.

    What's also great about this is that it can take place in an Alternate Universe so that we can pick and choose what's in there. Say for example you don't want King Mickey, but King Goofy.

    That's all I can think of for now.
     
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  11. GrandShadow

    GrandShadow I accept your challange.

    i get what your saying. to put it better for everybody else: he wants to start a massive RP here that will basically let everyone in, never end, and be so good that everybody will want to join.

    the only problem i have is the stat stuff. i prefer RPs that are more like a story, not like a game.
     
  12. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    Well the stats only dictate what kind of techniques your character can learn or know and also help to give an idea of what they are able to do as far as spell and physical wise.

    If you think about it in normal RPs you have a character you create and if Seph pops up he takes him on, even if he has no training. And unless Seph's player and the created character's player talk about how the fight should go, the P.C. will try and play like a lvl. 100 Sora and hold his own against Seph.

    With the stats you have Seph at say 3000 swordsmenship and your P.C. at 20. With that in mind do you really think you will try and pull a "I'm strong enough to hold my own" post?
     
  13. GrandShadow

    GrandShadow I accept your challange.

    i know. but at the same time there are some parts where you know your character will be completely outclassed and i for one will make my guy react accordingly. not everyone does that.

    but i still don't like the stat stuff. it annoys and confuses me to no end. despite all the help i get, i never fully understand the stat crap and i'll screw up which is why i prefer RPs without them.
     
  14. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    I know what you mean about getting confused, but if that happens you just have to ask the right questions or find someone who'd explain it to you in a way that you understand.

    However, while some people -like you- would make your character act accordingly, not everyone would. As much as it'd be nice to go by an honor system I think the stats would actually help anyone new to understand things they can and can't do.

    Say someone has written for four weeks, and they get into a colab or a PM and it looks like their character is going to die -due to how him/her and their battle partner set up the fight-. Out of nowhere their character suddenly goes Overdrive. Now you get a messy writing and things have to get sorted out.

    Now if O.D. is a racial feat gained by K.W. at then maybe yeah he could do it, but if it's a skill gained through training and he/she never went through the steps, the stats plus the steps would help tell them that it was something they couldn't do at the drop of a hat.
     
  15. GrandShadow

    GrandShadow I accept your challange.

    yes stats help make it so that people can't have a total new guy come and hold his own against a god, but there all so confusing to have to learn. and i've seen a few rps like this. i liked the story, the characters, the powers. the only thing i didn't like was the confusing stats. even on some of the easier ones, the stats are confusing and take a long time to learn. its like playing a game the first time ever and going straight for expert. there will be the rare cases where they hold up but most will get slaughtered and have to restart. the stat stuff takes a lot of time and learning and most RPers just want to make a character and hope along for the ride. they usually don't want to spend time learning how to fight with stats.
     
  16. Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    See that's another thing. We all wouldn't be starting at level one. Team leaders would naturally be higher and fight an opponent that was the same level. We wouldn't be sending someone with low Heart and stats to fight someone with high Heart and high stats. It would be controlled to an extent so that people could still enjoy the RP.

    And if this idea were to be incorporated I'm sure there would be an easy to read guide on stats and all. The only effort players would be doing would be simple equations [example: newbie bonus = stat * 1.1], and they would always have a guide to go back and reference or other members to help explain. If you have trouble with the equations it doesn't have to take away from the RP experience.
     
  17. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Um... it sounds like another rpg game to me Hare. I understand what you're saying though...
     
  18. Icarus

    Icarus skinwalker

    I know where you are coming from on this. I'm part of another forums where we tried this entire KH RPG. It was set up rather nicely and had great potential. But, no surprise the thing failed. It started out great with people posting and such but after, I believe, a week the thing just died and the only people left were actually myself and 3 other people. Even the person who organized it had given up.

    On to you next point of STATS. This is another HUGE problem one can run into. I also tried to run a RP that included stats and such and that failed miserably. I think we got like 10 posts in and then it died. And the whole creation of the stats just made it harder. The whole reason for an RP is to get people involved and such, When you bring in such a complicated system people automatically turn it away because of it. No one looks at the description, everyone looks at how long the CS is. ESPECIALLY when you have noobs in the forums 24/7 who can barely handle a normal RPG.

    Hopefully this doesn't sounds as messy as it looks. -__-'
     
  19. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    All I have to say this is Kingdom Hearts Planet, no Kingdom Hearts Planet Roleplay.

    If you want to make a roleplay, feel free to go ahead.
     
  20. sora-x

    sora-x New Member

    Haresuno i have to say honestly it's a wonderful idea i mean come on a massive rp, located in the RP section one giant rp that everybody can participate in and we would still have other rp's and general forums etc. sadly though your rp idea is too...big. this kinda thing is not what we should force on KHP.Alot of people love this site for it's diversity amongst different things, final fantasy/kingdom hearts games, general topics interactive threads where you can talk to the admins and staff. and an rp section.

    However i'm not completley rejecting this idea. instead of modifying the site why not post your idea as an average RP and keep it open to the entire site? then just like you said follow it up with stats and divisions.
     

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