Summit+North Korea= Terrorist Attack?

Like I said before you are right. You are right that I am stupid and maybe that is the reason why we keep on bumping heads.

Well, let me get my thoughts out there.

I rather had a democrat in office than a republician. Why? Simple, democrat simply means for the people.

The issue on change, yeah, it sounds confusing. Change is good for people. Instead of people having to follow their simple routine through out their whole life, if they change it up, then they have burst of excitement. And that change can be bad or good. I rather run open freely in a open meadow than cage up in a bird cage, doing the same thing.
Some good things will turn bad later on and some bad things will turn good. Just because if something has change for the worst, doesn't mean that it is going to stay that way.

With change, there people who oposse it.

Abortion. Well, I watch to many Animal Planet. And I heard that some doctor on it say, it is in one's nature, if we don't like something, we will find a way to discard it.

Simple such as an old cellphone to a high tech blackberry or killing someone because we don't like them.

 

Grow up? Maturity? Hehehe. That is a first. You obvisouly don't know me that too well. Again, you say that I am stupid, childlike, and then therefore I am. I am what people say I am.

I am stubborn, but my stubborness is something that I am proud of. I want change and I demand change. You are right, I am not the type of person that sit in front of the T.V. and watch C-Span all day. I am not that type of person who research laws and things of that nature online nor the type that call people stupid just because they don't see it my way. I am that type that call it as I see it. I am a type of person who go out and do things. Whether that be taking care of old folks in the nursing home or working in the hospital.

So I admit, you are right, Obama is bad. Big whoop. Most of todays leader are such liars and none of them are here to do good. They worried about getting re-elected and what is for dinner tonight. Look at Congress. Congress told major CEOs to bring their spending downs, such as Air Travel, Cars, etc., but they do the opposite of what they tell people, using our money to buy jets. Can't you carpool? But Obama is here, and we better make good out of it.

 

@Soul Knight: Try not to fall into the trap of an ad hominem argument (ie. attacking the person as opposed to the argument). You can certainly feel free to argue against the points he's presented, even call them groundless or whatever, but you should never make the leap and be so bold as to call him stupid. That's never ok in a debate.

@Yukou: You shouldn't so matter of factly state your opinion like this either. I understand that on your side of the debate, it's unimportant, but to the other side it is of utmost importance that you be respectful.

Why is it that I can't say "The death penalty is human nature." or "Suppressing the female gender is human nature." ? Because I'm not bringing any evidence to the table, I'm just blatantly disregarding everyone else's opinions on the matter.

 

Which goes back to my point. Democrat and republican aren't good names for the two major political parties. Democrat may mean 'for the people', but the democrats who are in congress and stuff aren't 'for the people'. Take Nancy Pellosi for example. Do you honestly think that she gives a damn about any of us? There are still democrats who are 'for the people'. That's why liberal and conservative are better names. They fit better.

Not all the time. Hitler... He was a change for the world. And that change wasn't good for anybody. It didn't cause excitement. It caused fear. I understand what you mean, but it just isn't always good.

Read my first comment on this post. It's just that a majority of democrats are liberal, and a majority of republicans are conservative.

And here's the definition of democrat (according to dictionary.com)

And while I'm at it, the definitions of republican, liberal, and conservative.

Now, there are obviously more definitions, but I thought these would be the best. You can look them up if you want.

 

Well not to go off topic, but I know that I am not stupid, and I have things to back up that claim. I just call myself stupid, just to make you happy, just to agree with you so you can shut up. And by calling me stupid, show how immature you are. Not once have I say that you where stupid for believing in what you want to to believe nor what you say about the way Obama does. What you say is true, I don't watch C-Span or any thing of that nature. (Better things to do) Quite frankly, I don't really give a whoot. I don't bitch, complain, or moan about things that go on with the government. I just make the best out of it. Because I know one day, I am going to make a difference.

So thank you for calling me stupid, because that just gave me motivation to prove you wrong, and when I do, it will be sweet.

Well back to the topic.

Well didn't the word democrat comes from Thomas Jefferson?

 

I think that is calling someone stupid. Well, whatever, past is in the past. Me and you don't agree on anything. I understand it, and spending it on arguing about it isn't ging to change that.

I agree with you that since Obama been in office, there isn't any good, yet. I still have faith at him and I still give him the benefit of the doubt. But some people just attack at him when one thing goes wrong. Why? Because he is different? When Bush was in office, I said the same thing, I still had faith in Bush, but once he started to lie to me, than that was when I made my opinions.

You could say and post that you are will informed about information by watching tv and researching, bravo, but when you come to me with real life experience, then talk. It is one thing to learn and research and from living with it.

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to you. I still value your opinion, but if you degrade people because they can't back up their facts or something of that nature, than your no good yourself.

 

they somewhat did the same thing to the last year president, but im not really too sure of what he did,
but what bush was doing was his though of the country safety, there must of been something he found that shouldn't been had told to the media, maybe im wrong maybe im right, he wasn't really lieing, maybe the people did that so he could just get out of the office. i still think president bush was a true preisdent of U.S.A. i never doubt what he had to do was a wrong thing for the wrong reason

 

I dunno. All I know is that a majority of deomcrats don't seem to care 'for the people', and just focus on what they want.

And seeing as how Thomas Jefferson was an Anti-Federalist, he's more of a republican than a democrat. Federalists would be more like democrats.

 

Moving swiftly onto North Korea before the topic gets out of hand. (Will move Obama debate to the err... Obama debate topic)

I don't see what evidence you have that suggests that they want to attack America sooner or later. Testing Nukes. - Oh, so every country that tests nukes must want to destroy the U.S.
U.S interference of Korea War. - A good thing as the war is at a stand still but how would America as a country feel if Russia and China stood back in.

Also, the reporters were clearly guilty, broke a N.Korean law (however unfair it may be) and were sentanced for it. I don't see an argument here as it was clearly the fualt of the reporters.

 

its doesn't really mean that with nukes theY are to destroy america there are other reason, but people are cautious, america goverment are just worried about other cuntries, since they are people to inj this world.

oh also , the korea reports what happen, did the goverment of korea sentence them???

 

2 American reporters illegaly entered Korea. (Basically illegal imagrints (very bad sp lol))
They were arrested and sentanced to 16 years in prison. (Good considering people are know to be shot for this crime)
Clinton managed to negotiate there release.

 

welll, what they did was good, but in he wrong solution, they could of found out if better if they just became an imagrint
hoping that obama gets a better solution then he has now,

 

It wasn't prision i think it was labor camp, but still, clearly they knew the rules.

 

Reading this whole thread is funny. You guys are re re. I mean, it is about N.K. and now it is about people calling each other stupid and OBAMA.

BTW Obama is Black. HAHAHA. <------------ I think that was spam, oh well, sue me.

But any way, N.K. are scared little pussies. (Forgive my language.)

 

lol you think NK are scared,lol thats funny, you dunno how they can be very aggressive, they give no mercy to anyone , belieave i've seen many things.