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Martial Arts

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Mythril Roxas, Mar 30, 2009.

What is the greatest Martial Art?

  1. Wing Chun

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Capoeira

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. Savate

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. Muay Thai

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
  5. Karate

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  6. Shaolin Kung Fu

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  7. Taekwondo

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
  8. Kickboxing/boxing

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  9. Glima

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  10. Judo

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  11. Jujutsu

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  12. Sambo

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  13. Shuai jiao

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  14. Aikido

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  15. Hapkido

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  16. Gatka (weaponry)

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  17. Kendo (weaponry)

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  18. Silambam (weaponry)

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  19. Jukendo (weaponry)

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  20. Jogo do Pau (weaponry)

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Zenrot

    Zenrot New Member

    No, I'm aware that Judoka are capable of attack. But an art that is centeralized in countering obviously cant compete in attack against an art that centeralized on attack. Another way I could see to beat judo would be an evasive technique with light, outer-zone strikes that dont keep yourself in their zone long enough to permit a counter attack. And excuse my use of terms, they most likely aren't correct terminology, I'm a swordsman not a Martial Artist.
     
  2. . . .

    Well, you can't really say that one Martial Art is totally superior. I think that all Martial Arts have amazing strengths and weaknesses. But the one thing that comes down to it is your technique. But personally, as a 3rd Degree Black-belt in Tae Kwon Do, I think that Tae Kwon Do is very good. Lightning fast kicks that are developed into very strong/fast kicks are very good.
     
  3. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Ok, but what if Tae Kwon Do is used against Jogo do Pau? I always use my staff for defense & always make sure that when I go in the defense, that I make sure that I tire out my enemy. To me, Tae Kwon Do is not strong against those who have weapons. & as for you Zenrot, YOU'RE A SWORDSMAN?!! When did you became one? Love to see my staff against your sword someday. ^^
     
  4. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Again, I can clearly see your confused. Judo uses your opponents attack AGAINST them. So if someone attacks THEM they use counter techniques. If someone else is more a Counter fighter, we judoka also know how to break them down, piece by piece until all bones in their body are broken. THats our attack. A FOOLISH judoka would be one who sees an enemy charging them and charges BACK (like you indicated in your post). They would never go head to head with some one if the opponent makes the first move. Then they'd use a counter. If the opponent stalls, and the judoka feels its appropriate for THEMSELVES to attack, they will. Its all about fighting "smart".

    I was in a Tae Kwon Do class for a while, and its was interesting. I liked it a lot. To tell you the truth, I'm wearing a Tae Kwon Do shirt right now!HAHA! But the kicks can be easily blocked or countered, there actually a lot easier to counter than fists, but a kick can deal a heavier blow than a punch, so I see Tae Kwon Do as more the "Ax" technique. It has less accuracy, but is more effective, and will hurt more if used properly.

    God damn, I hate F'in posers. Weaponry arts are more unfair compaired to ACTUAL FIGHTING. The only reason I put them up there is so posers wouldn't complain, or ask the most STUPIDIST QUESTION EVER!:"What about a tehcnique with a sword? Or a staff? Or knives?"
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! You people drive me up a fucking wall! Your not gonna carry a sword or a staff were ever you F'in go! So shut the F up!
    A true art is one were you don't need such things. Because we always carry our feet and our fists, but our greatest weapon of all is our mind.
     
  5. fishy smells

    fishy smells Member

    Oh yeah????? I use metal rods like swords, and im capable of swinging them quite hard and fast... Faster than Sephiroth's attacks
    ok, maybe im not that good, but i can PWN almost everyone that gets in my way!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Ok. First off, with me talking in a calm voice, there's no reason for you to scream or curse. What I said is not a stupid question. I did not say that I carry my staff with me everywhere & not only that, we can master any arts that we want to learn.
    If you want to curse, yell, & scream at me, then there's no reason for you to start this thread at all. All of us must know the weaknesses when one art is used against another. There is no true art in my opinion. I be one with my soul & spirit when I be wanting to use a art or fight with my staff.
    Tae Kwon Do have it's weaknesses & having a weapon in a art is not unfair. Otherwise, you wouldn't have put Jogo do Pau, Jukendo, Silambam, Kendo, & Gatka on the poll. I'd never complain about the arts & if I forgot about a art that involves with a certain weapon, yes, I will ask & it shouldn't be nothing wrong with asking.
    If you want to scream, yell, & curse at me, then you shouldn't have made this thread or have put up the weapon arts. No one didn't do anything to you & I'm saying this with a calm voice. I don't need to yell or scream. That's why some or most people can't get their words straight & you is crying over something that shouldn't even bother you, & you should help a person to know what's the name of a art that involves with a certain weapon if they forgot, not criticizing them or downgrading someone, especially your own brethren in god.
     
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  7. fishy smells

    fishy smells Member

    Strike Raid

    Oh, yeah? My fave move is this:
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    I use this all the time, even in real life! No, im not sora, but i still use it
     
  8. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    I enjoy using Ninjutusu, which splits into 18 different types of other training. Mostly involving weapons which I do enjoy using but considering hand to hand is more of an everyday thing than carrying wakizashi's, katana's and shurikens around, I like the Taijustsu arts which is also known as Jujustsu. Jujutsu uses a mixture of techniques involving locks, throws grapples, bone breakings, nerve strikes>paralysis, evasion and even counters/sacrificial moves (ie. going into your opponents attack to counter). I enjoy this art because of its mixture of different attacks and blocks. May not be the best one but it's just my opinion.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2009
  9. Zenrot

    Zenrot New Member

    I never stated that a Judo practitioner would decide to jump in on an opponents charge, I'm saying that judo is a countering technique and so its wise to take an opponent outside their comfort zone.




    Hmm, alittle biased perhaps? You are correct, I'm not going to carry my sword wherever I go, but the training you recieve when in sword combat still gives you enough hand to hand capability to get by unless you are randomly attacked by a martial arts master. And there is nothing "unfair" about it. A sword technique, a fist technique, a staff technique, they all take strength and skill to master, and a good martial artist can beat a good swordsman or vice versa. The point of learning these skills is to be able to defeat your opponent no matter WHAT their skill is. If i were to fight summonerbrandon, and he won, my first response wouldnt be "HE HAD A STAFF, I ONLY HAVE A SWORD, HE HAD BETTER REACH THAN ME, ITS NOT FAIR!" I'm confident in my skills, no matter who my opponent is or what they wield or choose not to wield.
     
  10. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26


    A staff & a sword have their own strengths & Zenrot's answers backed up my evidence. The only problem that I have is what I put in big bold letters. The person with the staff may not have a good range their own self. The person themselves can control their range/reach.
    If Zenrot won against me here's the reason why: He can control his power, control his balance better, not reckless, have a faster speed then me, or that he be careful at how he fight. If I had won, this is some of the reasons why: I have a good defense, I be careful how I fight, I be clever, I control my speed & balance, I be one with my spirit & soul, I study how my opponent move & I be very calm.
    Everyone have different skills & talents.
     
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  11. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    cba to read the whole topic, Muay Boran is the best, banned form of Muay Thai.
     
  12. annyssrr

    annyssrr New Member

    There's no Cambodia martial art.
     
  13. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Dont talk to me like this. You cannot master every art you learn...You're not with the soul and spirit when you fight...and I am not criticizing you or downgrading you for using a pole in the art. I put the weaponry arts up there for a reason, and thats because THEY ARE REAL! What I don't like is little punks who think they can wave a pole around, trying to act like some anime character or Sora or Riku or Sephiroth, or whatever, and DARE call themselves Artists of Fighting on the internet. The truth is, hell, I could be criticizing you as being a poser, and you might be a real fighter. And if thats true, please know I'm sorry. But I can read people really well, by the way they talk, act, and by facial expression. And the way you act and talk on this site does not support your argument that "You are a fighter". From someone who REALLY IS, that is VERY offensive. Posers are like my pet-peeve.

    that is true (the bolded). And if you can succesfully do that to a judoka, I guess there you find the weakness in judo. Good job. Also, THAT IS THE KIND OF TALK OF A FIGHTER! The way YOU act and talk on this site SUPPORTS my belief in that you might actually be a real fighter that REALLY uses a sword. I have a deeper respect for you now Zenrot, job well done.

    yeah, all of that just seems really fake. I'm sorry.....I don't see you summonerbrabdon as a real fighter. I'd need hardcore proof, other wise your just a poser.......

    Maybe I am, maybe I'm not, but a true figher is either objective, or he doesn't care for political correctness. Being able to stand up for what you believe, and back your knowledge up with your "bronze" ,if you will, is a powerful thing. Like "The Ultimate weapon" as a human being, without technology involved. But I do not see myself as bias in any way concerning arts, because they all have earned my deepest respect. I guess I may only be bias towards posers (clearly seen in this post), because I see them give arts a bad name, almost like they are mocking true artists.
     
  14. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Can you further explain what a 'true fighter' and a 'true artist' is? And can you prove that you are one? Because if you're not, then you'd be the poser by claiming you are something that you are not.
     
  15. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26


    First off, I am a real fighter. I have a wooden staff that I always practice with, & by wooden, I mean a staff that I went around to find, carve it to my liking, & make it good enough for me to use it & practice fighting with it. I don't be acting like some anime characters. I be real. Not only that, I am talking real calm & just because the way I act or talk on this site doesn't mean anything. I don't act like a fake.

    I'm talking to you in a calm voice & this is the truth about what I said above. I didn't say that we can master "every" art. I said we can master "any" art, meaning that we can master any art that interest us or that we like. I don't have to argue with you because I know that I am a real fighter, I never act like a fake, I do have a staff, & I know that I'm speaking the truth.

    I do know that the arts are real. Youwant to criticize me, wanting to say that I'm not something when I am, The examples I put up there about me & Zenrot makes sense to me & those examples about the advantages of what one person can have is true too. When I say "with the soul & spirit" I mean that I be very calm, clear away all negative thoughts, & control myself. You is forgetting that you can't just say "Since you act like this & talk like this all the time, you is nothing but a poser" because that's their personality. Personality don't have nothing to do with if they're a fighter or not. If you still think that I'm a fake, fine, but I know in my heart that I am a staff fighter & that I am not faking anything.
     
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  16. Waterfall17

    Waterfall17 New Member

    Hrmm. Well, since I'm a peacemaker...I'd like to do my job :D. Seriously, though...why get so upset about things like this? I agree that there is no need for getting that angry, even if it is a pet peeve. It's odd to me that there seems to be such a rapid loss of control (in terms of anger management) with one that claims to be a real fighter (which I do not dispute. Peacemaker, not fighter. I just like tessen...and kunai, chakram, and bow/arrow). A real fighter keeps their head on straight. Tactics are, in my opinion, much more effective than brute force. But tactics are useless if anger is not channeled well. Just saying...
     
  17. Chocobo Dyl

    Chocobo Dyl New Member

    I don't know any martial arts (although I may take up judo) but I use my own kind of method alot like judo's, allow the opponent to make the first move, find their weakness and use their own strength against them.

    I don't believe that I could take down a judokan or whatever, but I fight well, and to an untrained person, I'll most likely win.

    Also, does judo utilise attacking pressure points?
     
  18. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    I'm not too sure about judo but I think Jujutsu utilises attacks on pressure points, as well as utilising other forms of attacks/blows and blocks/counters.
     
  19. Chocobo Dyl

    Chocobo Dyl New Member

    Ah, thanks, but still, if somebody could tell me about judo.

    Also, if Judo requires taking the enemies weakness, surely a quick, short and less painful strike would be the way to wear them down. Or a complex way to do it, would be to know how your opponent would counter your attacks, by using attacks that can only have one possible outmanoever, and defend yourself against the counter, to eventually wear down your opponent, util an opening is seen and a quick strike can knock them down and open up a window of oppertunity, just a thought.
     
  20. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I agree with you. THere's no reason to be upset or yell & curse over these things. I also agree about a real fighter keeps their head on straight. THe anger thing being channeled, I would rather be calm. Tactics are, as you say, can be more effective. Brute force can sometimes lead to the person being reckless in the art(s) that they use.
     

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