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Who had the most impact on the series?

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by The Graceful Assassin, Mar 3, 2009.

Who Made The Real Difference?

  1. The Kingdom Hearts Heroes

    6 vote(s)
    27.3%

  2. The Kingdom Hearts Villians

    9 vote(s)
    40.9%

  3. The Final Fantasy Heroes & Villians

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%

  4. The Walt Disney Heroes & Villians

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%
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  1. Mar 3, 2009 #1
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    Now, this is a very serious topic that I want all of you to take as a debate in a sense. Like the topic title, I want to know what "group" of characters in Kingdom Hearts really helped shape the story itself. The first group are the "Kingdom Hearts Heroes." These characters involve Sora, Riku, Kairi, and all of the other original Kingdom Hearts heroes. Next are the "Kingdom Hearts Villians."

    These obviously involve Ansem, Xehanort, The Organization and all other original Kingdom Hearts villians. The next group are the "Final Fantasy Heroes & Villians." These would include Tidos, Sephiroth, Cloud Strife, and all other original Final Fantasy heroes and villians. The last group are the "Walt Disney Heroes & Villians." This includes Goofy, Donald, King Micket and all the other Walt Disney heroes and villians.

    Remember, this discussion is to be strictly on point. I expect any unnecessary posts to be deleted by the moderators or admins of this site.
     
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  2. Mar 3, 2009 #2
    Roxotho

    Roxotho Banned

    the villians. primarily, if not only, organization XIII. the heroes r nothing w/o the villians, but the villians can live w/o the heroes, as there are no heroes w/o villians 2 conquer. w/o Organization XIII there is no conflict, plot, or other literary devices. such as the irony of Organization XIII's goal.
     
  3. Mar 3, 2009 #3
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    Yes, I agree. Organization XIII has had a huge impact on the entire series. They just about filled in the wonders about the main villian Xehanort. However, Organization XIII itself has given itself lots of questioning on it's orgins and the origins of all of the members.
     
  4. Mar 3, 2009 #4
    Roxotho

    Roxotho Banned

    well that will b explained in 358/2 days
    CANT F***ING WAIT!!!!!!!! 8D
     
  5. Mar 3, 2009 #5
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    The Final Fantasy cameos in my opinion were necessary to holding the story up, but not really for the main story relevance. Even Cloud had as much usefullness as Wakka.
     
  6. Mar 3, 2009 #6
    Roxotho

    Roxotho Banned

    i thought they were nice distractions, but in the long run, i thought they were completley useless
     
  7. Mar 3, 2009 #7
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    Yes, they were. But the only thing I find wierd is that without all of the other cameos, Kingdom Hearts probably would've not been as good as it is right now.
     
  8. Mar 3, 2009 #8
    Roxotho

    Roxotho Banned

    ....what r cameos???
     
  9. Mar 3, 2009 #9
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    Cameos are things that represent other things.
     
  10. Mar 4, 2009 #10
    LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Definitely Kingdom Hearts Villain.
    They really hold the main story of KH.
    Disney Villain only used to be "some boss for losing boredom"
    They really didn't have strong impact in KH. Example: Oogie Boogie in KH2, he's only just revived by Maleficent then died again in hand of keyblade wielder.
     
  11. Mar 4, 2009 #11
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    The only real impact on the series that had to do with Disney was probably Maleficent.
     
  12. Mar 4, 2009 #12
    LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Definitely, but she has the bigger role in BBS (as confirmed by Nomura). When she talked with Terra and fought against Aqua.
     
  13. Mar 4, 2009 #13
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    So she actually converted Terra?
     
  14. Mar 4, 2009 #14
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I have to say KH heroes because Kiari's is one of the main reason's why you have Xion & Namine & her being the princesses of hearts.
     
  15. Mar 5, 2009 #15
    LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Perhaps, but I can not say that for sure. We should play the game to know the truth.
    But in some theories that i found in some forum, she is the reason why Master Xehanort become bad. (I don't know if it's true.)
     
  16. Mar 5, 2009 #16
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    Actually, it's Sora's reasons for that happening. Remember her heart was inside of Sora's. He unlocked his heart (Kairi's heart) and became a Heartless. But during that time Kairi had no heart and did not become a Heartless due to the fact that she is a Princess of Heart.
     
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  17. Mar 5, 2009 #17
    LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    To become more correct, 7 Princess of Heart didn't have big impact in KH2 nor KH. If they are, maybe just Kairi, and that didn't put a big story. Riku also have some impact, because that's one of the plot why Sora "wanted to have another journey" because he wanted to find Riku and Kairi (he remembered it when he's in Twilight town that Kairi also gone.)
     
  18. Mar 5, 2009 #18
    The Graceful Assassin

    The Graceful Assassin New Member

    Oh that is absolutely true. The other princesses weren't much of an impact.
     
  19. Mar 5, 2009 #19
    Roxotho

    Roxotho Banned

    hmm....the princess were: aurora, snow white, belle, cinderella, jasmine, kairi.....help me out here
     
  20. Mar 6, 2009 #20
    LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    and Alice. (am i right?)

    Anyway, we should concentrate about our discussion.
     
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