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Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by logos, Nov 29, 2016.

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  1. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    My point is, 358 doesn't reference a year. It references how many days had passed when Roxas and Xion were born. The director of the game literally states this and nothing else, therefore you have no basis. Period.

    Ancient Greece has died out, which is my point.
     
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  2. logos

    logos Member

    wrong, it does reference a year. it refers to 358 minus 7 days of kh2 that's one full year. like I said 358+2 =360 just facts bro, no way around it. 358/2 179 the end of virgo and beginning of the division of the zodiac wheel.
    the traditions of Greece didn't start there and they damn sure didn't end there. study ancient history.
     
  3. Become

    Become The Pink Opaque Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    Except as Angel has stated, and as you yourself has recognized, none of that math, and its result, has ever been stated as having been intended by the game's creator.

    Once the creator of ANY media, whether a video game, movie, book, etc. has weighed in on what they intended, that's pretty much game over as far as theorizing. Doing so only serves to undermine that creator. By continuing with this, you're either:

    1) Suggesting that Nomura was wrong about his own meaning, which is quite an insult unto the author, if you will.
    or
    2) Implying that he's not spoken to his truest intents, for whatever reason. This is all fine and dandy if that's what you believe; just try not to lash out too hard on people that don't share in that belief.
     
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  4. logos

    logos Member

    im not suggesting he wrong about anything that's why I quoted his explanation because it a clue to what im discussing here. he didn't say to add or divide no but he didn't say not to but even if he did say not to it doesn't matter. what he did say was that the title references the course of a year. and regardless if he says it or not it doesn't change that fact that 358/2 =179 and 358+2=360 in one fail swoop he incoded both the full zodiac wheel and its division which is what the game 358/2 is about, the division of the zodiac wheel between the seasons and their union.

    the division of day and night and their union. in one day there is day and night. 2 opposing forces that coexist to form one day
     
  5. Become

    Become The Pink Opaque Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    By his reveal of the meaning of his title, however, he effectively dismisses the notion that there's even meant to be a mathematical operation happening at all, because, within his context, 358 and 2, respectively, refer to the number of days that pass within the game's plot progression and the characters around which that plot is centered. The forward slash is being used in some capacity in a similar vein to how some people use 'w/' in a shorthand for 'with;' At least, that's as best as I can surmise for it. If we accept that the games title is in fact stands for 358 Days Through the Eyes of 2, then that's the most stable and fitting explanation.

    Unless you can give an analysis of the plot and how it relates back to your themes, then you're standing on some shaky grounds.
     
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  6. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Why are you adding 2? Just to get to the number you're conveniently needing to fit your theory?

    This, exactly.
     
  7. logos

    logos Member

    im adding to beca
    im adding two to show that 358+2 =360. I didn't make the title so I don't conveniently need nothing I think you guys are under the impression I need this to be the way im saying it. no it is that way. im just letting you know. whats convenient is that the title name is 358/2 and not 353/2 that's whats convenient. I didn't have nothing to do with the name of the game.
     
  8. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    If it referenced a year, it would be exactly 365 and its not. That's a fact. You're making the whole year thing up because it's convenient. Adding 2 is also convenient, you're just doing that to fit your needs. You don't divide the numbers. The director stated it's pronounced 358 days over 2. Meaning 358 days shared between two people, so why are you dividing. He tells you the meaning why are you making up a new one.

    Just because he doesn't say to add or divide, you take it upon yourself to do it anyway. Why? To make it fit your needs. I don't see you multiplying or subtracting.

    Who cares? You have no basis to perform those mathematical operations in the first place.
     
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  9. Derek

    Derek Well-Known Member

    The dumb*ss can't even use the right math symbols let alone do mathematical anything. lmao
     
  10. logos

    logos Member

    if I didn't know any better id say you guys had never heard of a clue. a clue is something that is hidden. but ok sure. I can give a few ways the plot relates to the themes im talking about. one complete cycle of the zodiac is 13 yes there are only 12 houses but to make it full circle of 360, its 13 otherwise time ends at pices and the sun is never reborn. so there are 13 members of the organization 13 and then we have the 14th member who isn't really a member well this is because 7+7 is 14. this represents the division of the seasons between aries and libra. count from aries to libra that's 7 houses. count from libra back to aries that's 7 houses.

    aries is when the sun is reborn form the dead of winter so in aries we have an EVEN time where the sun come from death into life. libra is the same way the libra scales symbolize the division of the sun form summer to autumn so one day it will be pretty warm and then the next toull notice crisp air and youll need a jacket.

    the X in Xion represents the cross of that wheel her weapon in her final for also makes an X she appears as both male and female. that's both halfs of the zodiac wheel. summer and winter.

    lets not forget that zodiac wheel revolves around an Axel which is the sun. and at the end the sun is always cut or divided and dies like xion does.

    365 days once again is a complete cycle of a year which is 360 on the zodiac wheel. it does reference a year because he mentions a year in his explanation he could have just said it means 358 days in the eyes of 2 people but he did not. the 358 the 2 and the 7 are all clues.
     
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  11. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Play nice, please.

    360 only has any relevance here because you want it to. Angel already said it:
    Well said.

    Maybe if they were actual clues intended by the people making the game, we'd get it. This is just random shit you're fixated on because you have an interest in astrology and conspiracy theories and want to see it everywhere.
     
  12. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    No he mentions, that after the 7 days in KH2 then it would be a full year.

    Why are you applying a year to a Zodiac wheel in the first place. There are other civilization who came up with 365 days without the use of Zodiacs
     
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  13. logos

    logos Member

    uhh the point of a clue is that you only know its a clue once you find it. and clues are always intentional. you cant this clue wasn't intended, what?
    2nd of all Im not the least bit fixated on astrology. I could give to fucks about astrology. everything is based on astrology, its not my fault. and no it has relevance because 358+2=360. which is a year, which is what nomura referenced in his explanation of the title.
     
  14. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Because it suits his theory.
     
  15. logos

    logos Member

    God you guys are dumb a year is based on the zodiac wheel. a year a DAY is based on the sun fucken morons. the zodiac charts the sun on its course through out the year.
     
  16. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    If we're so dumb, there's no reason to keep talking about it.
     
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