The Illuminati

but you don't have a legitimate reason just a bias to uphold.

 

its not about the illuminati its about astrology and duality that it has a connection to which are the ancient mystery religions coming from ancient Egypt and continuing to modern day in the mystery schools or fraternities and secrete societies.

 

If the illuminati existed, then terrorism would have been wiped off the map ages ago.

The whole centerpiece of a "new world order" is just that, order. Their entire doctrine would be based upon regulation beneath their unseen grip.

Terrorism, especially in recent years, is the complete opposite of order. Communism, facism, all past threats to international peace still had some goal that revolved around total control under their hand. The primary motive for terrorism however, is chaos. They kill and destroy under the guise of jihad, effectively villifying an entire race, social group, and religion.

A decade or two ago, when the vast number of radical militant groups were still in the middle east and mostly just in that area, one could have argued that the "Illuminati had it under control." That point falls mute in recent years.

While ISIS certainly isn't the world-ending threat that most far right-wing politicians consider it to be, they certainly are a bane to society and order, and as we have seen, they are a world-wide threat, and a near invisible one at that. ISIS has become the biggest threat to any sort of "new world order" that our planet has seen, perhaps ever. There is no possible way that a world-wide supergovernment that has its hand in every event that happens would allow an adversary such as the Islamic State to rise to the level of influence, wealth, and firepower that it currently has.

 

you may not notice but this is actually actual evidence of occult ritual practice...even blood sacrifice. and if you weren't there at the beginning you really don't know if the "evidence" is being misinterpreted or not. there could be another way to interpret the information and no evidence for evolution is tangible. so if you believe that those archeologist went out looking for evidence to support their theory but didn't find evidence to support it because that's what they were looking for but because it was the truth. totally bias. and we do know more by know and you would too if you consider it long enough.

with all due respect this comment shows that you haven't diligently looked into those "conspiracy theories" but im not going to waste my time. every legitimate thing I bring up youll find some excuse for with out a doubt. I can talk about the CIA MK ultra and their mind control experiments or I could talk about the skull and bones men. it really doesn't matter. there is obviously some cohesion working beyond the average man which is why we have things like national holidays which many times cross borders. so maybe you just arnt to well informed about this particular thing and that's why you don't see and haven't seen and im sure you are more informed and learned than me in many areas as well. but its not really a question as to wheather or not there is a deeper meaning...of course there is but to me its not mind blowing... its rather basic. where do you think the never ending battle of light and dark even come from? it comes from the constant struggle of the forces of nature. these are the things that humans have been reverencing for millennia so of course its found every where. but of course you have to have a certain bit of knowledge to see it. and I don't look for it it POPS right out at me.

no you are very wrong my friend. the truth is there is no new world order but just the old world order. the "new age religion" is really just the old pagan religions of the east. you see the controllers of this world understand duality and the yin yang forces or atleast they think they do.

they think they are just two sides of the same whole and I think they are right on that front but they use that "knowledge" to justify using both order and chaos in order to maintain dominance. they just confuse you with a bunch of lies and theories while hiding the truth right infront of your face the whole time. and they don't feel guilty because they feel like they have given you enough clues and if you cant figure it out you must be ok with your condition. so they use both aspects of duality to rule over you. they wield piece and destruction in = measure any good ruler or king knows that you must.

so its all about the two in one or the dualistic nature or our one world which is both light and dark day and night. and spiritual alchemy or traveling the road to dawn which could also be the road to night fall. do they plan to herd you like cattle? of course they do but they will always use the trickery of the jack to fool you.

as a matter of fact ISIS and al-Qaida are CIA operations

and I could link you to that document but I know you either wouldn't read it or make up some excuse for it so why bother.

so then you must believe the same about evolution.

 

While I do agree with you in saying that there is an ever constant struggle of man versus nature, I can tell you that you are wrong. Because man is losing that struggle. Those "mind control experiments" are just that. Experiments. Human science (and lizardman for that matter) has not advanced to the point of restructuring or overtaking someone's mind. You can make someone believe something by isolating them from the truth, you can brainwash them by repeating the same thing over and over until it becomes bible, (often through torture, also, see the Nazis, who practiced this) but humans cannot conquer nature. More than anything, they cannot conquer human nature. No matter how much flouride the government dumps in my water, I'm going to wake up with free will. (and clean, healthful water)

Now, on what you said about my post, I really don't understand what you're actually trying to say here, so let's just break down the big things. First off, duality does not bring control. I'm sorry to tell you this. As much as any anime or post you find on /r/im14andthisisdeep will say it, there does not have to be a "balance of good and evil" for the world to function. I'm sorry but that's how it is. There is a reason that Taoism died for the most part, because the whole idea of "Yin and Yang" was complete bullshit. Morality cannot be judged black and white because morality is based upon the standards society has set. "Any good king or ruler" did realize this, so they set their government's moral standards off of what they had been made to see fit. Look at the Spartans. To them, to kill another in battle was honorable, while to the Athenians, diplomacy came before combat. The only reason we as a country have the standards we do is because our value for human life as a whole has increased. We see other people as far more important to our lives than those of ancient times did. This is not something that one grand world superpower, new or old, could have controlled. It was a gradual political evolution across centuries upon centuries of the civilizations that thrived and/or survived leaving a more powerful legacy and blueprint than those that failed.

Also why the hell would they leave clues as to their existence? If they want to remain invisible, why the fuck are they waving their asses in our faces just waiting for us to catch a whiff? It's as stupid as the whole Anonymous shit. If you go on 4chan and put a picture of yourself wearing a Guy Fawkes mask saying you're "here to protect the internet," all you're doing is making yourself look like a dumbass. If you're a high priest or some shit for an ancient world super-government that has controlled the planet for generations upon generations, and you beat off by putting a secret message in a Beyonce song or on a soup can or soemthing, then all you're doing is making yourself and your ancient world super-government look like dumbasses.

And finally, about Vox's post, you're actually right. It can be said about evolution. Let's put you at one end of a table, and me at the other. You're here to argue the Illuminati, I'm here to argue against you. You put your evidence on the table, a dollar bill. You point to the pyramid printed on the back and call it a secret message. I refute you by telling you that it is the Eye of Providence, a popular emblem with many revolutionaries back in the late 1700s. It represents God and his ascendence and overwatch of mankind, and was based off the Eye of Horus, which represented good will. It is literally nothing more than a symbol set in place by the religious as fuck Puritans.

As for evolution, you can do the same. You put down two fossilized bones. They were both found within a few miles of eachother, both date from about the same time, but they seem to be part of a "missing link." I can just as easily take one brief look at them and tell you that one is from a human, and the other from his pet, or perhaps a hunting prize he kept with him. The difference between using this argument for the Illuminati and for evolution is that for the Illuminati, we have all the information set in place for us. For any bit of "proof" that you present, there is no speculation. There is, "no, that couldn't be it because of this." For almost everything that can be argued about evolution, there is another way it can be explained. It isn't immediately disproven every time like the Illuminati is.

 

Declassified, highly redacted document from the pentagon you can read it by clicking link below.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-co...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf
if you don't believe it here are a few excerpts from the document itself.
page 3


the document clearly explains who the opposition to the regime are, (the salafist, muslim brother hood and AQI A.K.A al Qaeda and who its supporters are (the west is among them)

you should all remember when obamas administration was funding those muslim rebels. well in this declassified document it details that they knew that their actions would create and Islamic state or ISIS

so in actuality they have been manipulating the whole situation for their purposes.

page 5


and they clearly tell you they wanted it to happen.

the document even mentions isis before it ever existed.

 

You should take note of the website you get your information from. Judicialwatch is an organization known for stirring up trouble and spreading misworded or misrepresented information in order to create a voice. They then use that voice to sue and file lawsuits, mostly against the American government.

Essentially, they use this sort of thing to make millions upon millions of dollars. I wouldn't take a thing they say as credible.

 

im afraid they are a little bit more than experiments. they were indeed experiments but now there are applications developed from those experiments.

José Manuel Rodríguez Delgado (August 8, 1915 – September 15, 2011) was a Spanish professor of physiology at Yale University, famed for his research into mind control through electrical stimulation of regions in the brain. His work opened many doors to the understanding of brain activity with the use of electrical stimuli

The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain."
Dr José Delgado,
Director of Neuropsychiatry
Yale University Medical School Congressional Record,
No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974


No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974



Dr José Delgado began his investigation into electrically stimulated pain and pleasure in Spain during the 1930s. He later became Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale University Medical School, where he refined the design of his remote-controlled "transdermal stimulator". Dr Delgado discovered that a whole range of emotions and behaviours can be electrically orchestrated in humans and non-human animals alike. The individual has no capacity to resist such control if stimulated.
Dr Delgado had great faith in his technology. In one famous experiment conducted in Spain, Dr Delgado confronted a charging 1,000-pound bull. As the horned animal lunged towards him aggressively, Dr Delgado used a radio signal to activate an electrode implanted deep in the bull's brain. The bull was brought to a halt at Delgado's feet.
In Journey Into Madness, The True Story of Secret CIA Mind Control and Medical Abuse (Bantam Books, 1989), Gordon Thomas, the former BBC producer, foreign correspondent and investigative journalist, relates how "Dr Gottlieb and behaviorists of ORD [Office of Research and Development, CIA, Central Intelligence Agency] shared [Dr.] José Delgado's views that the day must come when the technique would be perfected for making not only animals but humans respond to electrically transmitted signals"




obamas administration funded the rebels so whats are you talking about that is a declassified document see what I mean why do I bother., you people would know more if you didn't deny the truth or atleast consider it for a moment before writing it off in a second.

ordo ab chao A Latin expression, meaning Order out of Chaos. And motto of the Thirty-third Degree
you see the universe started in the chaotic explosion of a big bang and latter order was born out of that chaos.
life is dualistic. night and day light and dark. life and death etc
and Obama is the leader or president of America but he is also commander and chief so its him that gives the order to launch the missle or not sometimes resulting in the death of innocent casualties and dead women and children. yet he still shows concern and remorse for his citizens like the victims of sandy hook or Colorado etc.

 

anything can be easily dismissed if you don't adequately consider or outright ignore evidence. like you guys totally ignored and failed to address the 2012 DIA intelligence report released through the freedom of information act to judicial watch who requested it. you totally just proceeded to delve into some completely fabricated straw-man argument about "judicial watch" being known for stirring up trouble. As noted in the document itself, its an informational report, which means it is raw information and it has redacted sections. it is a Department of Defense Intelligence agency document and it can be obtained through a freedom of information act request by any one who wishes to obtain it, its not that difficult.

you also failed to consider or address Dr, Jose Delgado and his comments on future standing armies and the common man and his support which he obviously had because he had funding to carry out his mad scientist research. which proves that there is a vested interest in the control and manipulation of the common man and since the 1960's they have had brain manipulation technologies.

and if you don't believe me then you can see him manipulate the brain of a bull for yourself.



and blood sacrifice has to do with occult ritualistic sacrifice which is still carried out to this day in secrete fraternities around the world.

this is a video clip recorded at the Bohemian Grove where a mock human sacrifice of a wooden effigy to a giant stone owl. it is known as the "cremation of care" ceremony and it takes place every midsummer and this is the only ritual or activity open to the public and in case you want to go there for yourself, they do have armed police men guarding the entrance to the grove. but if you have an invite you can stay for the opening ceremony but the rest is private.

 

Actually I researched this Dr. Jose a bit, I just didn't get the chance to reply. His work is certainly fascinating, but not only does his "mind control" only incur fits of rage, it also requires a very obvious and intrusive surgery. Additionally, the results were not nearly as effective upon humans as they were on animals.

It's not mind control, it is just electrotherapy theory crafting. Interesting, but it's not gonna be anything the government will be dumping in our lucky charms.

 

ok you don't even understand what you are saying so you cant possibly understand what im saying. you just asked me did I refute evolution lol to refute means to disprove, so if I disproved it you wouldn't be able to disagree with me would you?

but to answer your question, no. I did not refute evolution nor did I TRY to refute evolution.
I was simply making a point. if you say that anytime you look for something then you are going to find it, then you must believe that all the archeologist and anthropologist who went out looking for evidence of evolution only found it because that's what they were looking for. a normal guy happening upon ancient "LUCY" bones might just think they are looking at another monkey .

and for the record im not looking for anything. I have a teacher In occult history and etymology and during our lessons many things jump out at me as being strikingly like kingdom hearts.

other shows to but KH is literally an occult game containing all the ancient mysteries if you understand it.

you failed to address the DIA document at all and the military industrial complex has long since perfect Dr. Jose delgados work.

 

I already did address those documents.