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The ULTIMATE Theory - Everything comes together...It's all explained

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep' started by Redzonic, Jun 4, 2008.

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  1. Redzonic

    Redzonic New Member

    First, let's go over what we know from the trailer. This is what finally made everything come together.
    1.) Ven's heart is getting weaker
    2.) Terra asks Xehanort ''What did you do to his heart?''
    3.) Ven asks to be erased
    4.) Terra is seen on Destiny Islands eyeing Kid Sora and Kid Riku.
    5.) In KH2FM+, remember the Dark Portal? Portals don't open themselves


    Now, here's the theory. EVERYTHING Is explained here.
    Let me put it in timeline form

    *Xehanort approaches Ven, knowing his heart is getting weaker. Ven wants to be erased.

    *Xehanort offers to put Ven's heart in someone else to keep him alive

    *Terra goes to Destiny Islands and eyes Kid Riku and Sora. At this time, Terra is about 17 years old, and Kid Riku/Sora are probably 7. Terra notices Riku is the stronger one, with more power and strength, and perhaps some other aspects which will be made more clear in BBS

    *Terra chooses ''Riku''. Xehanort, however, has his own idea. He put's Ven's heart inside of SORA Instead. Terra is unaware, and fully believes Riku recieved the heart

    *Ven's heart is now inside of Sora. Since this happens, everything comes together

    *Sora recieved the keyblade POSSIBLY because of Ven's heart.

    *When Sora became a heartless, he had 3 hearts inside of him. Ven's heart, which became Roxas. Kairi's heart, which became Namine. And a third heart... Does that mean a third nobody? I'll discuss this later

    *Cut to KH2FM+, Sora enters the dark portal. At this time, Terra is expecting Riku. He instead sees Sora.

    *We do not know if Terra is the one who opened the dark portal. But if he isn't...someone did. We know that.

    *Now that Sora enters, Terra is confused. ''Why isn't it you that I have chosen? XEHANORT!" . Terra is clearly pissed off at Xehanort for choosing the wrong guy. In this, he attacks Sora in rage, possibly thinking him unfit

    ==
    *This explains the title ''Birth by Sleep'' perfectly. Roxas was born from Ven's heart sleeping in Sora.

    ===Part 2: The future of Kingdom Hearts

    *Was Ven's heart fused with Sora's? If it isn't, that means there were clearly THREE Hearts when Sora became a heartless. Meaning a third nobody...

    *We know there's a ''Room of Awakening''. If Sora/Roxas went in The room of Awakening...then Ven would Awaken...instantly...meaning Roxas would remember everything...and perhaps seek Terra out

    *Terra is still alive, and, by now, probably in his upper 20s. Terra meeting Roxas will be...wierd... The room of Awakening will definitely be involved

    *Aqua? She's probably dead.

    *Terra lives on to see KH3, Ven is still sleeping in Roxas/Sora, waiting to awaken.

    *Mickey's note as seen in KH2's ending. Well, we know by now that Mickey knows, or, maybe, ''knew'' about Ven at one point, or perhaps still does. What does his note say? Is Mickey going to look for Terra, Ven, and the room of awakening as well? Does Mickey know about Roxas?

    The stage for Kingdom Hearts 3 is set.
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2008
  2. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    one thing though the battle with terra never really happened.
     
  3. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Wow, I never knew that Ven's heart was getting weaker. What about the Xehanort that Ansem the Wise found?
     
  4. Redzonic

    Redzonic New Member

    Yes, It did.

    The battle with ''Xemnas'' really happened in Kingdom Hearts 1 Final Mix, as said in kh2's trailer ''I've been to see him''
     
  5. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    i'm not talking about the battle with xemnas, i'm talking about the battle with terra in kh2fm.
     
  6. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    The Lingering Sentiment boss? Nomura said that whether or not he is the same person as Terra is uncertain and irrelevant.
     
  7. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    exactly, this means that battle never happened. i remember nomura saying he was'nt even the one who decided to put that battle in the game.
     
  8. Redzonic

    Redzonic New Member

    I see.

    Even if the battle is irrelevant, the theory still holds it's grounds almost perfectly.
     
  9. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    well i have to say it's pretty good. it kinda matches something my japanese friend is translating for me.
     
  10. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    What is it that he is translating?
     
  11. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    an artical from a japanese magazine. it supposodly tells a bit about the overall plot.
     
  12. Redzonic

    Redzonic New Member

    By the way, Nomura NEVER SAID The Fight wasn't canon. That ''issue'' was never addressed at all.

    Trust me. Look all you want, you won't find anything that proves me wrong.

    So this theory still stands.
     
  13. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    fine i will look.
     
  14. Redzonic

    Redzonic New Member

    okkkay.....?
     
  15. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    I've been thinking. I doubt Ven's heart was put into Sora instead of Riku by Xehanort because the keyblade chose Sora over Riku because Riku chose darkness. The Lingering Sentiment may have chosen Riku, but the keyblade acted on it's own.
     
  16. nailthiskent

    nailthiskent New Member

    um demon u r the most trustworthy person on this forum so i believe u see the thing is I haven't even seen nething in khfm+ khfm2+ or wateva because i'm in Australia and my internet is to slow for youtube so is there anyway i can get final mixes?
     
  17. The_Unknown_Master

    The_Unknown_Master New Member

    I still dont get how your theory explains the title "birth by sleep", honestly it sounded like your pulling stuff out of thin air, but its ok i do that with my theories too...
     
  18. This a great theory.
     
  19. Locogabitron

    Locogabitron Kichi's Squall Leon

    Wow

    omg, red.. i mean.. this theory, well in my opinion, i think this is the best theory I have ever seen.

    Impressive.

    But, i never thought of this before eaither(one of the things that shocked me): Birth by Sleep really means Roxas was born from Ven's heart sleeping in Sora

    This is very interesting.. so, as far as i know, does somebody know when is it going to be launched? or at least at what year/season?
     
  20. DjC

    DjC New Member

    Well there is wrong thing with your theory but it really doesn't destroy it, Sora and Riku are confirmed to be 4 and 5 years old :p.
     
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