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Xehanort is Master Xehanort's Helper Theory

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by EtherealSummoner, Jul 28, 2011.

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  1. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    After all of that Gender racing sparking a huge feud between Nicole and Legacy, I ended up thinking that I might find that I think and may have solve to be the one to be Master Xehanort's assistance. Well, I say that it is Xehanort (Not Master Xehanort. Ansem the Wise's Apprentice Xehanort.). Here is why I said that:

    Yen Sid stated that because of Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, and Xemnas, Master Xehanort will return. Well, let us all know that it was Xehanort the Apprentice who first started it all off with the creation of the two. Since Xehanort the Apprentice willingly gave his body to darkness, that was what created the two. Since Xemnas was able to know Aqua, that shows that he has the memories of Master Xehanort and since he knows his days of being Ansem the Wise's apprentice, that also shows that he has Xehanort the Apprentice's memories.

    Because of this, I believe that when Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, and Xemnas, was destroyed, not only did it brought back Master Xehanort but it also brought back Xehanort the Apprentice since Yen Sid stated that there could be another form or helper alongside him. I know that Xehanort the Apprentice is originally Terra-Xehanort but since Terra-Xehanort actually lost all of the memories because of Master Xehanort try to send Terra's body into darkness, you actually just have Xehanort the Apprentice who is his own being.
     

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    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    I guess you don't pay attention to the games... Ansem the wises' apprentice is, a combination of Terra and MX... i thought this was going to be good...but...it wasn't
     
  3. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    ^ What are you talking about? This makes more sense than Destiny AND Legacy's ideas!
     
  4. Noir

    Noir

    Nope.
    I agree with the part that Terra-Xehanort.. lose his memories and ended up his name into simply Xehanort.
     
  5. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    -____- I do pay attention to the games and I do know that Xehanort the Apprentice is a combination of the two. However, all of us cannot deny the fact that he acted like he were his own self and nobody else since all of the memories were erased. Who said that you cannot have more than two forms living? You had Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, living and you had Xemnas living at the same time. You had Ventus and Vanitus living and existing at the same time. You had Sora and Roxas existing at the same time and you had Kairi and Namine existing at the same time. Cannot cross out the possibility that Master Xehanort and the Xehanort the Apprentice that was made just from the very same body that Master Xehanort stole from Terra cannot co-exist.

    Plus, let me also state that when Master Xehanort released his heart and controlled Terra, he has created a new, younger body. The same new, younger body that Xehanort the Apprentice has. Since this same body was thrown away willingly into darkness and both the heartless (first) and the nobody were defeated, not only it will bring back Master Xehanort since he was also the original one who made it and not only it will bring back Terra since it is his body too that was controlled but it will also bring back Xehanort the Apprentice. Since that body do not house the memories of Terra and Master Xehanort after the battle with Aqua, a new consciousness and sub-consciousness emerged within just for Xehanort the Apprentice.
     
  6. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    I just have some comments and questions.

    Xemnas's memories could belong to Terra.

    How exactly would Master Xehanort and Terra be brought back?

    Memories aren't erase only forgotten.

    Terra's hair color changed and that's pretty much it. His body continued growing.
     
  7. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Xemnas' memories came from Terra's, Master Xehanort's and Xehanort the Apprentice. He remembered the works of Xehanort the Apprentice, knows Ansem the Wise, and knows Aqua's armor to call it friend.

    2. If the heartless has been defeated first and then the nobody has been defeated, the original form can be brought back again. Since that same one body was Master Xehanort, Terra's, and Xehanort the Apprentice, all three of them can be brought back again.

    3. I think that memories can be erased. Well, I say that because Namine never had any of Kairi's memories at all. It is a possibility.

    4. The hair color that changed on Terra's body showed that Master Xehanort was controlling it and that it is him who is currently in control.
     
  8. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Oke.

    Terra's body doesn't necessarily belong to Master Xehanort. Xehanort the apprentice doesn't have a heart or body of his own.

    How will Master Xehanort come back when his body is elsewhere?

    Well Namine had no memories of Kairi because Kairi's heart never became a heartless.

    Not exactly!
     
  9. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Xehanort the Apprentice does have a heart and soul of his own. A new consciousness was born within him after the loss of memories. The old body that Master Xehanort had merged along with Terra's to create Terra-Xehanort, a fusion and younger version of himself. That body is still one and the same because of the fusion. Terra's body didn't belong to Master Xehanort at first but when he took over Terra, it was now shared between the two.

    Not saying that this theory can be right since there can be flaws but as of right now, it makes more sense than the last theory that I had, which I had now realized that I was way off.
     
  10. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Xehanort the Apprentice new consciousness was the same as Master Xehanort. Master Xehanort's body did not merge with Terra. If Xehanort did over power Terra's heart, the body still does not belong to him.
    It is very interesting. But I would like to quote some things that might relate to your theory.
    He released his heart. His body did not come with him.

    I believe this to be Birth by Sleep Vol. 2.
    Then what was it? A nobody?


    So was Xehanort the Apprentice able to use the keyblade

    (These quotes and comments sorta makes this theory kinda shakey.)
     
  11. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    1. The new consciousness wasn't the same as Master Xehanort. If something is new, then it cannot be the same. As for the body, to me, it really didn't matter who was originally over the body, the two still shared it as they were struggling against each other.

    2. Meh. That part about Master Xehanort/Terra-Xehanort stabbing himself with the keyblade was not able to create a nobody or a heartless. Aqua interfered with it, remember? With Aqua's interference, this brought in the new consciousness and being of Xehanort the Apprentice. Well, that is what I think.

    3. As for Xemnas, I do not even know. I mean, we all know that he took on the keyblade armor twice during the fight against Sora. Why he did not use a keyblade, I just definitely do not know. I guess that maybe it was one of these:

    1. Xehanort the Apprentice's lack of memories and the past battles interfered with Xemnas ever being able to even use one.

    2. The lacking of Terra's soul (Lingering Will) is what led to Xemnas not being able to wield a keyblade.

    Meh. Those are the only two that I can think of. I will try to find out more if I can.
     
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