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Lives Equilibrium

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Angel, Jun 20, 2011.

Do you choose saving more lives over fewer or vice versa?

Poll closed Jun 19, 2012.
  1. Sacrifice the Minority for the Majority!

    42.9%
  2. Sacrifice the Majority for the Minority!

    14.3%
  3. When the time arises you just can not choose!

    42.9%
  1. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    In any situation, would you sacrifice 1,000s of people to save 1,000,000s or sacrifice 1,000,000s to save 1000s?!
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    Some Examples Fiction and Non-Fiction:

    There is a plague that everyone has and 1 in 100 people have a special gene that keeps them immune. There is a cure to save 1,000,000s who are plagued but as a result kills the people with this special gene. Would you use the cure?

    During WWII, the Manhattan Project was underway. The President decided if the US fought on the mainland of Japan a greater number of Japanese and American soldiers would be lost, on the contrary if we drop the atomic bomb, no American soldiers would be lost and less Japanese civilians would die than the result of fighting on the mainland. Would you drop it?

    In the time of the Aztec, their culture was the most known for human sacrifices. They would kill to aid the sun or to guide their king to the afterlife. They would especially perform sacrifices to protect themselves during natural disasters. If sacrifices did protect these people from harm. Would you have been ready to sacrifice to protect your people?

    The Iranian Hostage Crisis occurred when an exile leader seeked medical treatment within the US and the American Embassy was immediately taken by force and over 50 Americans were hostages. The demands were to hand over this exile so he could be put to trial but Carter refused. What would you have done?

    There is an opportunity to prevent one location during 9/11 from being hit by a plane. Either the Pentagon or the World Trade Center. The World Trade Center resulted in a large scale of deaths and casualties on the other hand The Pentagon resulted in a much smaller number. Which would you have prevented?
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    There are endless possible scenarios but do you think more people outweigh the lives of people who are fewer in numbers or vice versa? Would you like to save as many people as you can or start over with the few people that most wouldn't save?

    This is a Paradox, Irony, and a Contradiction. There is no Equilibrium. We say all people are equal but when it comes down to it more lives outweighs the lives of fewer people.

    This idea came to me when playing Infamous 2. I hate the good ending by the way.
     
  2. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    ...To be honest, I'd save the mijority instead of the minority. It's best to have more people alive than dead. I would sacrifice myself to save 2 or more people. It's just that simple
     
  3. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    i would save 1000s instead of the 1000000s in any situation.

    More people doesn't matter to me always the minority lose to the majority.
     
  4. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    but why? Don't you know how much hate you would get from people?
     
  5. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    From what people?

    Either decision you make someone will hate you for it.
     
  6. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    True, but you'd get more hate if you save less people instead of more people. I follow a certain Honor of mine. That's why I disaprove of your choice =/
     
  7. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Not really if those people are happy to be the selected few to be alive instead of being dead.

    I have my own beliefs that's why I disapprove of yours. :)
     
  8. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    meh...you'd be making less people happy instead of more =/
     
  9. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    You'd be making more people mad then me.

    So your saying you would have drop the atomic bomb on Japan to prevent more people from dieing?
     
  10. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    ahem, they attacked Pearl Harbor. So basically it's payback. And since they were our enemies at the time, it wouldn't matter. So I'm still saving more people then less.
     
  11. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    When the time arises, you just cannot choose. That is what I say. You have to think of the aftermath of your decision too. ??? And what kind of debate is this anyways?
     
  12. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    KeybladeLegacy is saying to sacrifice more people for less, while I say the opposite
     
  13. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    There are some threats you wouldn't even want to plague your worst enemy with.

    Eh...I think it's common that a person or a country tries to make more lives a top priority over fewer ones but is that always the right way to go. Such as the Atomic Bomb dropped in Japan to this day people are still suffering from the radiation. So pretty much it's a debate over "is sacrificing fewer lives to save a whole really worth it."
     
  14. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    It's human nature though. We need more people alive then dead. I mean, what if, IF, people just saved the minority. That would rapidly decrease the Human Population. And say in, 1,300 years or so from now, 80% of the Human Population will be dead
     
  15. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    That really supported my view.

    Overpopulation is not good. Those are just more people starving, needing shelter, and water.
     
  16. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    but they're still people. People we can help and save. I wouldn't just let them die =/
     
  17. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Everyone can not be saved. Inevitably all people will die. So why not let the 1,000,000s die and be able to save the 1000s. A thousand people are much more manageable than a million. This way more people can be helped, less people will starve and die; this world can start over and be shaped and molded in a more kind and generous world without oppression and slavery.

    That's the kind of world I would live in. ^_^
     
  18. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    But it's still unfair to those dying. That's the world I live in =D
     
  19. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Eh life isn't fair.

    People die without it being their choice.
     
  20. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    I guess I have to give you that. But it's still possible to prevent their death ourselves
     

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