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Summoner's First Sig and Avatar Design.

Discussion in 'Audio and Visual' started by EtherealSummoner, Oct 9, 2010.

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  1. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Pick colors that complement your image- use the eyedropper tool and snag a color off of Ultimecia, and use that as a basis, instead of coming up with some idea like "Space", making a background that fits that, and trying to mash Ultimecia into it. These blues that you are choosing do not look pretty with the images you select.

    And if you'd layer your effects a little more, your images would blend in better. What it looks like to me is that you added the image as an afterthought. Add your image early on and build your effects around it.

    Demaian is right about the lack of depth, too. But that happens when your background is one solid pattern and one color. Vary it up a bit- look at the tag Ventus is using.
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    There are a lot of colors in there, but they all look pretty with the stock image.

    Maybe try using some textures.

    Well, the colors you choose do tend to be blinding, along with the patterns, but the sig as a whole is just extremely blurry, and I'm not really sure what you did to make it that way. There should be a tool that you can use to sharpen it.
     
  2. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    This will be my last signature on this thread. I have entered this on a SOTW on Animemb. Hopefully, I have done better. I try and try and try to do everything that all of you recommended me to do.

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  3. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Well, the background is somewhat improved. The coloring is much more pleasant to look at and the effects aren't quite so monotonous, though it still lacks depth. But you have the same problem as before with blending in the render. It continues to look like you made a background and were planning on using just that as your sig, but then stuck a render on top, just for the heck of it. The render also looks very distorted to me, like you tried to resize it but didn't do it properly. The text needs work. I don't like the font, color, or placement. It distracts from the rest of the signature.

    This one's better than the last two. Keep practicing.
     
  4. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    :( WHAT?! I thought that my rendering and meshing were showing! (The rendering looking distorted was my fault. I tried to make my character be a little bit more sharper through photoshop.) I though that my signature had a render on it. Should it have looked like this instead (I also made this)?

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  5. GrandShadow

    GrandShadow I accept your challange.

    ok for this one, you have all the effects pointing to a specific point in the sig, but from what i can tell, nothing is their to focus on.
    i will say this though, the effects are simple but look nice and the background has a nice look as well.
    a very good sig for a beginner. now it just needs something to fill the blank, but it also has to look nice and not destroy your hard work.
     
  6. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    It looks ok? THANKS! I tried hard on that one. ??? I think I didn't add enough focus on it.

    Anyways, this will be my LAST LAST signature on this thread. I didn't know which color would be ok so I decided to make two of them.

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  7. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    1) I'm not sure if you get what I mean by render. When I use the word, I mean any image that's been removed from its background, i.e the render of Dagger/Garnet you used earlier.
    2) I can't understand how you could think that your render was well blended. You can see the sharp outline of it against the (flat) background. And the problem with the render is not that it is too sharp, it's that the render is distorted. The faces of the characters are stretched out, yet squashed-looking at the same time.

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    This is probably the best you've done so far, if only because you've experimented more on adding effects and making a respectable background. But, terrible placement of the Edea image. You can barely even tell it's there- I missed it the first time I looked at it. And it's again a rather low quality image- her pose doesn't lend itself to being the focus of a signature, in my opinion, and parts, like her one arm, look too blurry.

    The latest two are terrible. Sorry, but there it is. Same problems with low quality, blurry, possibly distorted renders, same problem with the renders not being a part of the signature, but just laid on top of a background for seemingly no reason, same problems with painfully bright colors and too much contrast. Text is the same as it has been.

    Needs work.
     
  8. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    ??? I think I did something to her that made her look like she is of low quality. I swear that Sorceress Edea was not of low quality. I shouldn't have added no hue of green on her. -_- I didn't realize that my little light up in the sky is covering up her left arm. Oh darn. I thought more of Sorceress Edea with her sorceress power so ice popped up into my mind but then I also thought about her being possessed so I try to make it dark but have some light in the background. I did experiment though.

    As for Shion Uzuki, she was of high quality but I went and tried to make her more *colorful* along with something else so I think that my doing made her look like she was created to be of a low quality. Her background rendering is something that I had made from scratch. Just made a white background and then tested out different effects and renderings until I can find something that can suit her.

    Now that I think about it, I don't know what the problem is when you kept on saying that there are blurs or distortions. I never go to any options that can cause blurs or distortions.

    Anyways, I have switched to making avatars right now so I really can't post them on this thread. Will make a different one.

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    Thanks to all those who gave me hints on what to do with signatures. I still have to improve on what is right for a signature and make sure not to make everything blurry and distorted. To get back on track, I have just made this avatar and this was for someone here on this forum. I would really would like to know what is the difference between an avatar and a signature when making them.

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  9. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    I think either you have a completely different idea of what "high quality stock" means than me, or else you don't know how to keep images in proportion when you resize them, or both, because I don't think it is just my computer making the anime guy/animal look all stretched out weirdly, or the chick look so blurry. If that were the case, every image on my screen would look like piss, and it's only your signatures that are doing it.

    Well, I see no reason why you need two threads to post your work. Thread title is being changed and threads are being merged.
     
  10. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I am guessing that it is the resizing part. I don't mind if you merge the two threads. I just made a seperate one so that I won't go off topic. Anyone want to give their opinion on the Namine avatar?
     
  11. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Avatar is kinda big, imo. The cut around Namine is sloppy, particularly around the hair. The colors at least look pretty with Namine, though again, Namine is just sitting on top of the background. It doesn't feel like one coherent piece of art. Essentially, the same criticism I've been giving on your signatures.
     
  12. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Uh... I think that is her glow around the top right part of her head. Maybe that is why she looks sloppy. I made her big but the site here can make it smaller and the site can accept any pictures that are less than 92.5 kg so I thought that it wouldn't hurt to make it at least 200 * 200.

    AND OH MY GOOOSH!! I am so confuse!! I am looking at all of these signatures and avatars that everyone else made in the past on this site and I am trying to have my characters to to implicate or mimic the same standards that they have. What is so different about my characters on a picture than from everyone else? It would be saying that Ventus' signature made by Demaian is standing/posing in front of a background too.
     
  13. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    I don't notice a glow in the area where I think the cut looks particularly bad.

    No, there's a difference. Your signatures lack depth, but really, I don't think I can articulate the difference, except the obvious that Demaian's sigs are better made. When I look at the Ventus sig (to keep using that example), it just looks like one piece of art to me. Your signatures (and the avatar, too) look like separate pieces glued together. I can't describe it any better than that.
     
  14. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    May someone give me their opinion on this signature that I am currently using as my own? Some people are saying that this is one of my better sigs but I need to know what all of you think.

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