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Obama's Green Job Czar is a Self-Proclaimed Communist

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Soul Knight, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Answer Man, either quote what you're talking about, you rewrite your sentence. I have no idea what you're saying.
     
  2. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    That wasn't uncalled for. All your argument was "The senate is only doing that because". I just showed how stupid that argument was. So far everyone but you and Morphine and perhaps someothers believe these videos to be real. If the liberal democrats believe that videos about a liberal group doing illegal stuff are real, then it has to be real.

    And what do you mean by "Obama did'nt say it."? I hope you're not suggesting Obama has to agree with something for it to be real. If so then would'nt Obama be you're God or something?
     
  3. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    -_- Ok. What maeks Obama a god? Been watching channel 26 since I have charter cabel & people is already, well, let's just say taht it looks liek they're against congress. Seriously though, I don't know why or where you got the mind of Obama being a god.
     
  4. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest


    Sorry Brandon, you took the word "God" too literaly in my post. When I said God I was using it as a metaphore to describe Obama as being to some people the person who is always right. Meaning I believe Answer Man was saying Obama is always right and if he does'nt say Acorn is bad then it means Acorn is good no matter what the evidence says.

    Of course I hope I misunderstood what Answer Man meant and will wait for him to explain.
     
  5. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    Obama is not God. He is a human being. And all human beings are subject to mistakes.
     
  6. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    well soul i will explain it hes not always rigt but there doing stuff without constuling him frist. i know he dosnet have all the power but still people look to him. and i do not thik of him as god at all, but i know tha vid is fake, wacht both of them and look at the what the people say on youtube, most of them are experts at making vids.
     
  7. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Never said he was God. I was using the word "God" as a METAPHORE!

    You expect me to believe some strangers on youtube compared to the judgement of the congress and the U.S. Census?

    The only reasons I can think of why you would still think the video is fake is because you are a left wing radical. Am I correct?

    Acorn themselves have said they will bring in an independant investigator to investigate the Acorn buildings in the videos. SO ACORN BELIEVES THEY ARE REAL!!!

    Do you still think they are fake?
     
  8. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    Yes Yes i do. and what is left wing radical, are you calling me crazy???
     
  9. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Okay first, why do you think it's fake when Acorn believes it's real?

    A left wing radical is a person that meets most of the following:

    1. A Person who puts liberal ideas before facts and truths.
    2. Someone who takes the cause of social justice to extremes.
    3. A Person who considers the constitution irrelavent and void.
    4. A Person who stands by liberal people despite the facts.
    5. A Person who supports Partial Birth Abortions.
    6. A Person who is Racist.
    7. A Person with radical views of social structure and change to fit a liberal agenda.

    There are others but I think you get the idea. Basicaly they are two far left. There are also right wing radicals who are just as bad as left wing radicals.

    Most Americans are center to right. Meaning most americans are more inbetween liberal and conservative but when compared to values more people are conservative but not right wing radicals or left wing radicals.

    Now there are liberal and conservative and well i'll make this short:

    I'm a conservative meaning I support the following:

    1. Pro-Life
    2. Traditional Family Values
    3. Tougher Laws
    4. Individual Control over money

    A Liberal is usualy:

    1. Pro-Choice
    2. Less Traditional
    3. Laws that fit a less tougher field (No Death Penalty is one example)
    4. More Government Control over money

    I'm assuming since you still don't believe the videos are real when even Acorn themselves do that you're a left wing radical because you are ignoring facts in favor of defending a liberal group.
     
  10. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    1. A Person who puts liberal ideas before facts and truths.
    2. Someone who takes the cause of social justice to extremes.
    3. A Person who considers the constitution irrelavent and void.
    4. A Person who stands by liberal people despite the facts.
    5. A Person who supports Partial Birth Abortions.
    6. A Person who is Racist.
    7. A Person with radical views of social structure and change to fit a liberal agenda.

    <.> & I'm none of the above when you called me one. Anyways, I don't even know what's going on anymore, since there was to many people on C-NN Washington's Journal talking about Congress & Obama.
     
  11. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    I was'nt suggesting you were a left wing radical, you just confused me with your post. Of course you made it clear what you believed in so we got that out of the way.

    And I wish people would stop saying i'm a racist or that i'm bashing Obama. Look if I can't challenge a black president just as much as I would a white president without being called a racist then you people are nuts (I'm not talking about Summonerbrandon or Desert Warrior)

    When I go after Van Jones or Acorn or people surrounding and advising the president, I am only doing what he said.

    Obama: "Judge me by the people I surround myself with"

    That is what I am doing. So far I see 32 radical czars and a contreversial group known as Acorn. Well since Obama said we could judge him based on the people he surrounds himself with then I have to say my judgement is I don't trust the man and I doubt his judgement and his ideas seem radical. Once the president fixes the problem with the czars and launches a federal investigation into Acorn I will change my judgement of the man.
     
  12. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    that doesn't mean he is thought it just means he's trying to expand his people, make friends or try to help america anyway he can.
     
  13. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    But that is not how our country is made to work. When you become a member of elected office you make a vow to protect and defend the constitution. Which means Obama is supposed to help people according to the constitution and communist are opposed to the constitution so Obama having communist working for him is like an abomination.

    If you are not going to hire people who love the constitution then you should'nt be president.
     
  14. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    that is being a discriminating person right there.
     
  15. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    Soul Knight, I need you to understand something:

    I REALLY hope that you're aware that the people in office right now, and past and present have basically been creating and pushing their way through loopholes in the constitution for as long as the constitution itself has existed. You know why they do that right? That's basically what happens when you mess around with power; you tend to do corrupt and selfish things, despite what you may have said to protect a country. This also goes for Obama as well, but he's doing the best that he can, and that isn't my argument.

    What you just said about a page back was probably the purest thing that's entirely separate from what I've been taught by teachers who've been in and out of being lawyers, accountants, and other occupations where they've experienced the various sways of the law first hand.

    I'm a liberal and I was born in Los Angeles, California.
    California is the most liberal and left wing of all the 50 states, and has the largest population next to Texas. So, since I've been living on a side of the country that's more on the 'radical' side, so to speak due to the trickling neo-seeds of Manifest Destiny, I'm going to ***enlighten*** your way of thinking;

    To be honest, people that do that tend to want the best for the general, and ever changing population.

    Ever hear of an extremist-conservative? You can basically look at Fox News and that's the largest example of that. Our entire media when it comes to government and a means of 'control' is basically based on making us afraid of irrelevant bullshit instead of focusing on issues that may affect us negatively in the long run. Like..what's the point in screaming about Obama, if we should REALLY focus on actual national issues?


    That isn't true. In fact, a lot of liberals are in favor of how our culture changes within each new era and tries to find ways to make sure that the constitution fits those new social developments. And that second thing you said also applies to conservatives as well. How often do you see conservatives holding strong onto wildly ethnocentric and narrow upper class ideologies? "More often than liberals" is the correct answer.


    And? I think the whole social squabble over abortions is retarded. If a woman decides that she doesn't want her baby, as long as she gets rid of it before there are too many developments, I don't consider it to be that big of a deal. Besides, better to get an abortion than to raise a child in a crappy environment, don't ya think?

    Lmao, since when? It's more often the case that a lot of conservatives end up being racist because they're stuck in the notion that whites should always be on top. So they support laws that only protect their social group that's mostly full of their own race and benefits them. Our entire social system is sexist and racist, btw. That just goes without the lines of conservatism or radicalism there as well. It's been institutionalized for over 300 years and its blatantly obvious in a lot of cultural scenarios.

    For instance -
    Southern, white, christian conservatives are the most racist in our entire country.
    That's because the roots of slavery were instilled down there, and the old 'white supremacy' habits from way back when didn't die out. It just carried into each generation following it.

    That's basically the point. That also applies to "radical conservatives" who also fall under the category of being extremist if they're too far right wing as well.

    Traditional Family Values...in terms of what? I honestly hope that you're not referring to homosexuality. Then what do you mean by tougher laws?

    Drug dealers and such really only sell drugs in order to support themselves because it is SO much easier to sell it than it is to earn your way with a normal, legal job. They also shouldn't be getting longer sentences than murderers, serial killers, and rapists. The fact that that happens is fucking retarded to me, and it needs to be changed. Moreso people who are caught 'possessing' drugs by chance or by intention are also thrown in jail for much longer sentences than rapists and killers.

    Someone tell me how that makes ANY sense?

    I don't really get why liberals and conservatives fight so much. We just need to make sure that the government is more liberal with distributing local and international information instead of only showing us what they "want" us to know, instead of what we "need" to know. Then if weed was legal and taxed regularly, and our industries weren't so gung ho on manipulating us to fit a generic, played out, conservative standard from the 1950's, we'd be much better off.


    No, it's just called 'observing things' and responding.
     
  16. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Which is why we need to clean up the government and get patriotic constitution loving people in there instead of the corrupt maniacs there now (Democrats and Republicans)

    Umm...exactly what was it that I said that you are refering to?



    No wonder we can't agree, I was born in the south and raised in a christian conservative family.

    Explain?


    You don't even watch Fox News (I am only assuming, correct me if I am wrong) so how would you know.



    That is where you are wrong. The constitution was created to never change. We are never suppose to change to constitution to our liking or social views, that is not what the founders intended.



    Let me give you the pro-life point of view. To us a mother having an abortion is no different than a man busting into your house and killing your new born baby. To us it does'nt matter at what point they are in development, we consider them babies. So when a woman gets an abortion we consider that murder.

    Now just like any murder it makes us sad and angry so we keep pushing until abortion is illegal.

    We want rights for the unborn.

    But alot of liberals are racist against white people.

    Trust me I know. I was a victim of a racist hate crime.

    See now your being racist. You just said christians, southern people, and whites are racist. Sure some of them are but not all of us. I'm sure some liberal californians are racist but do I say every one in california is a racist? No, because that is saying the whole state is racist and that isn't true.

    See this is another thing about liberals. You are always protecting the muslims but if a christian is the victim of a crime you don't care. It is a personal thing between many liberals and christians.

    But am not a radical conservative, I don't want to kill liberals.



    No, not the act itself.

    This is a free country and you can be gay if you want to. However marriage has always been between a man and a woman and I don't think that should change. Somethings should never change.

    And I don't think children should be taught about homosexuality in schools. That is forcing a liberal agenda.

    Personaly I think they all deserve the same sentences. They should all be locked up for good. They are only criminals and who cares about criminals, they are bad people.



    Let me give you a conservative point of view. If we let liberals do whatever they want then our way of life is gone. We wont be able to live in peace anymore. Everywhere we go there would be liberal stuff and while that may sound like paradise to you, to a conservative it's hell.

    Okay let me give you a scenario:

    As a christian I find abortion to be wrong so if an abortion clinic is built in my neighborhood then I have to move because of my morality. To a liberal you may find that to be silly but to me a christian living in a neighborhood with a baby killing factory in it is disturbing.

    Does my happiness not matter? Or is my happiness not valued as much as the woman who gets an abortion.

    Conservatives are trying to protect traditions and a way of life but liberals want to destroy that.

    I am honestly afraid that things became more liberal I as a christian would loose alot of rights.

    But I will give you a chance to explain. Tell me the liberal point of view.
     
  17. Moogle

    Moogle Well-Known Member

    Hun, As long as there is power, there will be corruption. Although, having only two political parties is bull.

    As long as you don't start preaching in here. I lived in the south for about four years, and it damn near drove me crazy.


    I semi-agree with you. Sure, it isn't what the founders intended, and we shouldn't change it to our liking, it needs to be altered to fit society's needs - such as the right to vote.

    Yes, but a man breaking into someone's house against their will and the mother choosing to get an abortion are two different things. Some mothers are stupid and would only do it to benefit themselves so they can just do the horizontal monster mash again, but I'll leave this topic for the abortion thread.



    No, she isn't. She isn't counting that as three separate groups, but saying that southern white christians tend to be racist. And from what I saw, I see that's somewhat true.


    A good majority of the US are christian. People tend to overlook majorities nowadays.


    I believe I once saw a signature that said, "Blame the straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay children". What if somebody was born into the wrong body, eh? Someone was a guy on the outside, but a girl on the inside? Would you still be against the 'marriage'?



    So what? I bet that you've stolen pencils or something in your youth (And don't you dare deny it - every child has at one point). Does that mean you should go to jail too?

    Traditions have killed more babies in history that change. Shall we take a look at Sparta? And Christians have done as much killing as the next guy. Witch hunts, anyone?

    Rights to what? The right to force your bible down the throat of schoolchildren?
     
  18. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    XD Wow. I'm not born in the south. Anyways, the part about man on the inside but a woman on the inside makes me think of Thomas Beatie. DX That is way too nasty. Let's not get off topic please. Plus, I saw Obama on the news this morning while preparing to go to church & they asked him that do he think that people don't want to accept his ideas because of racism. I think racism is somehow playing a part in the health debate for some reasons. I think racism was playing a part in it too for Van Jones, but I don't think racism wasn't the majority in the debates.
     
  19. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    the jail part SK is wrong becasue what if they where framed? what if you where framed than what? would you still imply that you should go to jail for nothing? if what you said happened, then you would be in jail for good. the rights to what part, SK if you talk about America having freedom and stuff then you have to respect other religions and what moogles said, is that what you would do?
     
  20. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Allow me to give you this to think about.

    You are liberal and I am mostly conservative. But in the end we are both imperfect beings. The liberal way is wrong and so is the conservative way. However part of each way is right.

    Each side is after the same thing. We both want what is best for the world, we only disagree on what is best for the world.

    The truth is, both conservatism and liberalism is soon destined to die out. Weither you realize it or not history is taking a turning point and it's not a more liberal or conservative future.

    In fact I believe the world is soon to have an awakening.

    Here is one thing we can agree on. To me when an innocent person is put in prison it is one of the worst things that can ever happen.

    I get very angry when I hear of someone going to jail for years for a crime they did'nt commit. Those years of their life was wasted for nothing, they were away from their families for nothing. It's sick!

    If I had the power I would reverse time so that person could get all the years they lost back.
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    However if a truly guilty person is sent to prison they should be punished to the most extreme way possible for their crimes.
     

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