Did Ven become an Unbirth?

I'm afraid I dont know where that thread is, but for this thread: It seems unlikely that Ven became an unbirth since it doesnt seem like people themselves are turned into unbirths from what Nomura said.

 

Nomura also says that Ven is somewhat half Sora half Roxas (attitude wise)
Having said that, Ven would portray negative emotions. Himself becoming an Unbirth is still questionable. Does he BECOME one or does he PRODUCE one (maybe even some?) like the way Nobodies come about?

Ease up, no need to yell. When you say Maleficcent and Riku having negative emotions, I guess you are saying they should be making Unverse's as well? An earlier Nomura Interview states that Unverse's do not exist in Sora's "Time" (I'm assuming his part of the story of KH)

Which was what I started to think, so Ven BECOMING an Unbirth is a no no for me now.

 

I agree, I really don't see people becoming Unbirths, but then again I remember something about Unbirth's setting the stage for heartless or nobodies, like a predecessor kind of thing. I still agree with my other theory about them spawning instead of enveloping a person, but I could see that if someone is OVERCOME by negative emotion they become an unbirth.

 

But it's possible for the "Unverse" to be "unextinct". As for the thread, I'll find it for you Zenrot.

 

Is unverse the same as unbirth? And what do you mean "unextinct"? Regaining its original form? We've seen this happen with Heartless and Nobodies as well.

 

I mean that if the requirements are fulfilled, that the Unverse will come back from extinction. It's possible if you think about it. Also,here's the link to the Unbirths theory. http://kh-3.net/forums/future-kingdom-hearts-games/4258-what-unbirth.html

 

Well if we are categorizing unbirth in the same category as heartless and nobodies then of course they can return, since we have seen first hand that heartless and nobodies can return, albiet those of keyblade wielders.

 

We do HAVE an idea and do know that they weren't around in BBS time, so that is a big no no

I think its to simple because when has anything been simple to figure out?

and i can disagree with a theory, plus its unverse now, and we sort of know how they are born, but its not really good enough to off by.

definite - known for certain;
definite - Having distinct limits; Free from any doubt;
definite- Clearly defined; explicitly precise

puts weight on its on self with the meaning doesn't it, it sorta means they are 100% sure they are correct. Enough said

 

Let's not go off subject. Not only that, it's impossible for Ven to be an unverse! He never did have any negative emotions for anyone... but now that I'm thinking about it, Nomura says that unverse don't know anything about living or existence...

 

Do you know this? is it confirmed? I think not. Also he (Nomura) does not say the negative emotions is towards someone,

More so...

The "maybe part makes what I'm going to say unconfirmed (like everyone's else thoughts/statements/theories), but saying he may be "half" and having "bits" of Roxas, that would give him a negative attitude/emotion at least right?
Himself becoming one, it seems unlikely for me, him perhaps making Unverse could be a possibility, which is what I've stated already.

 

If you watch the trailers, nearly all of Ven's lines are negative in nature, and he also takes the most damage in the Birth By Sleep secret video. He wants his friend to erase him, and in one video I watched (english sub translated so I suppose it COULD be wrong) Terra told Master Xehanort "I have a friend, and you need to stay away from his heart!" or something along those lines. Just because Ven is a protagonist doesn't mean he feels only happy thoughts, Example: Light Yagami from Death Note, Dante from Devil May Cry, even Spider-man the super hero all deal with negative emotion from time to time.

In terms of the "part sora part roxas" thing, I'm confused, I feel like Nomura was saying personality wise he is a cross between them.

 

I agree with you Zenrot.

 

i do not agree.

 

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Could you please elaborate instead of just stating that you agree or disagree.

I would like to hear you're thoughts AM. It's always nice to see different views.

 

well i kinda think that ven is really isn't roxas at all, maybe he used to work with MX or was his assistant and something went wrong with a experiment and ven started to become the first heartless, that's why MX is so intrigued with him. not that he's half of of sora and roxas.

 

I see where you are getting at. I was using Nomura's quote. I'm not saying he is Half Roxas half Sora exactly, but elaborating to what that could mean when Nomura said that. Nomura also says "may".
What I'm pointing out is that Ven may be producing Unverse with the new information we have (Read his latest interview when you get a chance, interesting stuff), and not turning into one.
http://kh-3.net/forums/news-rumours-theories/5757-bbs-new-nomura-interview.html

 

so unverse??? i liked unbrith better, but maybe in that kind way he is turning into one, cause he seems to be confused about life. and what he's doing.

 

just a wonder... i was rewatching the secret ending the other day, and it just came to me. Was Ven emitting a black and white flame before freezing up by MX?
And since there wasn't any heartless or nobodies back then, they were called unversed, does it mean this incident started it all?? and was Ven the start of everything? since he dresses in black and white (heartless are black and nobodies are white)... well, just a guess XP

 

maybe, i dont really think so but i do think he's the start of the first heartless and nobodie somehow. maybe.