Obama Debate

Right. We'll you are certainly allowed to voice your opinion if you somehow manage to make your way into congress (not as easy as it seems, but more power to you and good luck) but by that logic you are saying If i vote against you then you will attack me. I certainly wouldn't vote for you if you ran for office, nothing against you personally but clearly we do not agree. Also, the US is becoming increasingly liberal, and I feel it will be hard for such a strict conservative to gain an hand-hold in the upcoming elections. Good luck regardless though, following dreams is far better than hating life every day because you are stuck in a job you hate.

And I don't hate babies, I love babies. BUT, I also love the rights of the people to make their own decisions in life. You are trying to shove your own moral view down everyones throats. I plan to have children one day, certainly. Do I want one RIGHT NOW? no. If I impregnate someone will I force them to raise a baby they do not want? no. Besides, lets say you DO ban abortion, do you think that will STOP it? absolutely not. Abortion will just be the new drug problem. Instead of going to abortion clinics people will go to back alleys or just do anything in their power to kill it, which would result in far MORE moral suffering. Despite the fact that the law is the LAW, people will do as they please when a situation is dire enough.

 

Ill address these resepectively in paragraph form.

True, but its not so simple as just running and saying I hate homosexuals. The south is conservative but its not retarded, its going to take some work. Im not saying you cant do it, but its not as easy as you are saying it is.

I dont consider a baby less human, nor do I hate them. I DO consider an underdeveloped sack of cells less human. Thats why I only support first trimester abortion.

Justice is relative.

You couldnt make a law that way, because the WHOLE congress has to pass it. Not just you.

 

You will need money, but if thats not an issue then you are fine.

I dont care what YOU consider it. I care what I consider it. Just because you don't agree has no meaning in terms of my parenting skills. People who keep a baby they don't want are FAR more likely to be bad parents than those who are pro-choice.

Justice is relative yes. I believe murder is wrong certainly, but as said, not everyone believes it all hence it can never fulfill the textbook definition of evil. It is something that society finds wrong, which right now abortion is not.

Ideals will NEVER be gone. Ever. No matter how you try you can never erase ideals from this planet. If the government is republican, there will still be democrats. If you become an evil dictator, there will STILL be resistance. There is no way to erase ideals, because you may think you are this genius with a heart of gold, but you arent above everyone else, and other people care about their way of life just as much as you do.

 

You think I care what YOU consider? I don't think its a baby, so I'm not going to treat it as a baby until it has developed INTO a baby.

Anyone who DOESNT agree with abortion can get over it, because it's legal, and thats all there is to it.

How are you going to do that? Blow up abortion clinics? Burn crosses on homosexual families lawns? Burn down synagogues and mosques? That will NEVER work, because when there are crazy power hungry people like you, there will always be people to oppose you.

 

You just told me you DONT want to be president.

So you say.

You are basically saying you will defy everything this country was based on and become a tyranical ruler? No chance I'd let that happen.

How will you create your own society? You need land for that. MANY liberals are CHRISTIAN. Religion isnt so black and white that you are either right or wrong, there are many sides to any story. And no, I don't want you to die, I care about life, but I do see the importance of things over other things. That sack of cells is not as important as the woman I love whose life is being ruined by it. Get that parasite out of my wifes uterus, its not my child yet.

 

Oh wow... It's amazing what I've missed. Let's see what I can come up with.....

I'm not a fan of liberals and stuff, and I don't like that last part you put. It is against the Constitution. By making this country strict, you're going against the very foundations that America has been built on.

IF you become President. One, I might run too. And two, you cannot prevent people from having their own say. Do you know the first nine words in the Constitution? We the People of the United States of America...

That means that this government is (supposed) to be run for the people, by the people. And we do that by electing people who will represent us (Obviously, it's not quite going like it should). I'm going to be honest with this next statement: You sound like a Nazi.

It's not that simple.

I am seriously starting to question your state of mind. That statement is completely, 100% wrong. I have several friends who are liberals, and they don't want to destory Christians.

But if all liberals wanted to destroy Christians, then you'd be fine. From reading your posts, you do not sound like a Christian. As I stated above: You sound like a Nazi.

He said he didn't want to stop with President.

I gotta admit, it's comments like these that I hate.

1. Her life isn't nessecarily being ruined by having a baby grow in her. Children are one of life's challenges, and people shouldn't be able to back down from that challenge. They need to face the consequences of their actions.

2. (This second statement of yours I hated the most) FETUSES ARE NOT PARASITES. A parasite is a creature that lives off it's host and physically harms it's host. A child growing inside of a woman usually does not harm her. It is a symbiotic relationship, the mother and the child growing inside, but it is not a parasitic one. It's one of the other two (Which sadly, I've forgetten what they're called).

 

I don't see how removing one state of ideals isn't defying what this country was based on.

Not everyone is a crazy radical christian like you are. That doesn't mean they aren't christian.

I don't want to know, because I don't like hearing about crazy fantasies. Your future society is about as believable as Harry Potter.

Not everyone has the same beliefs as you for the love of god. That doesn't make them cowards, it makes them DIFFERENT.

 

Right. And what I think is evil is someone who is forcing his Ideals onto people who dont want those ideals, don't believe in them, don't trust them, all just because you think it is right. Life is a constant battle, but its a battle YOU must fight on your OWN. You are attempting force yourself into the lives of others who don't want your ways or your advice. And I believe that god weighs you on your character, not if "jesus is your home-boy"

 

Hahaha. I was laughing about that Harry Potter part. Uh, I really don't want a strict country. Seriously, if you made the USA like that, I would run to Japan, England, or Paris. I don't want a country that was like Germany with Hitler. Not only that, Zenrot don't want you to die Twilight because he cares & cares about life. I'm too young to try & talk about your other post & I'll stay out of trying to say some of these things that the three of you siad, because it'll be more screaming & pressure on this thread.

 

The US isnt a strict country. Why? Because it is the land of the FREE. Freedom is a double edged sword, but its freedom that ALLOWS people like twilight and myself to HAVE our beliefs at all!

 

Well first off, I hope Twilight doesn't run for the country later in his life, because one out of two things will happen, either I will move back to my parent's country, or like Desert Warrior stated, run against him.

I love liberal people and liberal people aren't bring down Christians. Liberal people are open minded and open to change. I don't care about stupid issues, more important issues are at hand, such as the economy, the War on Terrorism, and other important factor such as good relationship with other nations.

First of all, I don't follow nor believe in Christ or God's teaching. I don't post on this forum, oh you should do this, oh if you don't follow God then you are going to hell. I don't do this shit. Promoting your religion on to people who don't believe is selfish on your part.

You can't make the US strict because you are ruining the foundation of America. I hope people know that you can change the Constitution any time, you can Admen things, but it has to be a vote with the people. The PEOPLE run America not the President. The President is the leader of America, who voice's the people concern.

If you do run this country, no offense, I pray that you would get revolted or over throw and I hope America doesn't die.

Another thing, it is true that it has been a good vs evil thing, but how would a person look at it worshiping Satan? In there eyes, God is evil and Satan is good. And you can't talk shit about it because it is their religion.

I want someone else in office who isn't a Christian. People don't get pass their religions and that is a shame. I want some one from Buddhist descent or a Jew or a Catholic to be President. But Obama is alright.

And Honestly I want to play God it is fun.

 

Catholics are Christian. Catholics are the original Christian.

Beer isn't bad.