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Dark sora

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts 2' started by Answer Man, Apr 13, 2009.

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  1. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    hi everyone, I'm back for a little. Now this ost is about someone I think we all should talk about. DARK SORA.


    In kh2 when you go into valor form, you sometimes turn into a heartless lookin sora. You don't have a keyblade, or dould of goofy(of couse). You can jump higher than before, you have super strenght, dark attacks. Plus you have yellow eyes.(cool).


    When I frist went in that form at the hades cups, I didn't know what happen, but he's stronger then his other froms in his dark mode. So how can he turn into that?


    I think it's because when he turned to a heartless, and came back he still had some darkness in him, and when he got Roaxs back the darkness became stronger than before.
    Then when he got his valor form, and it his dark slef was able to escape for a time becasue sora opened like a void, that void was fulled by goofy or dould or both. But the dark self fulled that void sometimes.


    That's what I think, post what you think to. i MIGHT edit it to.
     
  2. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Sora's anti-form is due to his turning into a shadow, basically, im sure nomura confrimed that on in the Kingdom Hearts Ultimania guide. so basically, think of it as a super dooper powered shadow
     
  3. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    DISCLAIMER WARNING: This is my oppinion.

    I think that Anti-Form is basically all the negative energy that forms when Sora goes into Valor and Wisdom forms. And that Master Form has no negative energy, and that Final Form is such a pure light form that it removes negative energy.

    I say this because there is that invisible Drive meter that changes when you go into one of the four forms. Valor and Wisdom forms adds one point to the invisible drive meter (And as such, the chance of going into Anti-Form increases whenever you go into Valor Form or Wisdom Form). Master Form does nothing to the meter, but you can still go into Anti-Form. And Final Form removes 15 points from the invisible drive meter whenever you go into Final Form (And as such, you can never go into Anti-Form if you go into Final Form).

    And as a final note, Anti-Form just looks cool. There is no advantage to it. You can't pick up health orbs. The only way to get out of it is by letting the drive meter go down to zero. You take more damage than you normally would. You deal less damage than you normally would.
     
  4. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    but how come you didn't see the gurge or know bout it at first, they didn't even tell bout it?
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2009
  5. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    First off, you can go into anti mode with the master form & you can get out of anti mode by going into a different area or by (Hopefullly. Never did try it.) go to a save point & go to gummi space. I went into anti form a couple of times with the master form & that's why I included in there.

    Roxas, I think, has nothing to do with sora & the anti form. Remember that Roxas went into the realm of light instead of the darkness, especially Namine.
     
  6. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.


    >.<..master form can go to Anti-Form..if anything it has MORE of this evil or whatever energy you call it, because ur basically combining wisdom and valor form to get to master from..if you havent noticed in master form your strength increasing along with your magic, and you can swing ur keyblade along with using fire etc..

    Also, Final form reduces because of the simple reason that, its a NOBODY form o_O...if you haven't noticed the symbols on soras clothes when he goes final..anyway..its a nobody form the opposite of heartless or anti-form, it has nothing to do with the pure light or whatever xD, i( note that, antiform is basically the heartless drive form, except you cant choose it, so)..


    Well roxas does have something to do with it, seeing on how when sora turned into a a shadow, Roxas was born, so if roxas was never born, then sora wouldn't have turned into a shadow, and would never have antiform :p..>.> or sora could have skipped the part of him rescuing kairi and stabbing himself
     
  7. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Internet and Player's Guides.

    I said you can go into Anti-Form through Master Form. I just said that Master Form won't increase the odds of you going into Anti-Form. Valor and Wisdom forms will increase the odds though.

    It isn't a nobody form. In Yen Sid's tower, there are those mirrors that are covered up. When you examine them, they each say something different. One mirror says something along the lines of 'Unleashing the Keyblade's true power.' That is referring to Final Form. I've seen the symbols on Sora's Final Form outfit. They don't look like the Nobody symbol.

    I think the reason why Sora goes into Anti-Form is all just theory. Like I said, I think it's just the negative energy that's formed. Since there has never been given an explanation to why Anti-Form exists and stuff (Unless you've heard it, then please give me a link to your info or something), then we can't say there is a definant cause.
     
  8. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Misread, sorry xD



    I meant the colors, are nobody not the symbols :p, but anyway actually i wasn't trying to say it was a nobody form i was getting at you could look at it as a nobody form, because the power lke u said is the the keyblades true power, but this is only done after fighting roxas in TWTNW, sora is at full strength and is able to use the keyblades full power :p i guess this can back up your roxas isn't compelty merged till the end of KH2 thingy


    No its not theory, its been confrimed that Sora goes in to Anti-Form, because he truned into a heartless o_O..i kinda said that already..


    Kingdom Hearts Ultimania - NI/Famitsu-2
     
  9. Sora Armitage

    Sora Armitage New Member

    Never Ever use a drive form except for Final form when against a member of the organisation. Never!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Esspacially against Xalden. Bad idea. Risk it if you want.
     
  10. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Okay. Reading from that site, I read that they confirmed both things. Story line, Anti-Form is the heartless (For those who didn't read the site). And it's formed from all the bad energy caused by the other drives.

    There is a problem with that. To get Final Form, you have to activate another drive and hope you're given Final Form. I find it best to do it against Xigbar. Out of the remaining Organization members, he is the best option to use Final Form against. Luxord is a one-on-one battle, so you can't get Final Form. And Saix requires to be hit with his weapon to be hurt, so you don't have a big window to damage him alot with Final Form. And Xemnas obviously is too late to not have Final Form.
     
  11. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    actually it didn't say anything about the bad energy not confirming it at all,....


    Is anti-form originated from when Sora got turned into a Heartless?
    Story-wise, yes. Drives are very strong so anti-form exists as a side-effect of using too much power. System-wise, I wanted to create something strong but troublesome.


    meaning, for the Story yes anti form is because sora turned into a shadow, for SYSTEM WISE or game play wise, He just wanted to give us gamers a challenge,

    a form where we take up more damage, can't hill and deal little damage, its random so we don't know when to expect it or what do do in the situation..he says nothing about that energy thing you think it is...its because he is Nomura and he likes to mess with us nothing about energy
     
  12. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

     
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  13. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Isn't negative energy a side effect of power? Well technically, I suppose it's based on what people believe. Oh well. In all honesty, it doesn't really matter what the explanation of the cause of Anti-Form is.
     
  14. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    It does matter, what it means something big in the next game? Namuro or whatever his name is might have something big in store for that from.(maybe not though).
     
  15. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    it Nomura....first off

    and second, i doubt anti form will have a MAJOR impact in the story...seeing how he didn't bother to explain..what it was in the game, and he just told us the explination
     
  16. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    So how come story wise, nobody says anything bout him going in to anti form. like his darkness is coming back or something like that?
     
  17. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

     
  18. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Yes. There are several mirrors (I think five in the regular KH2). Each one talking about one of Sora's forms, including Anti-Form.
     
  19. ilovesora101

    ilovesora101 New Member

    i agree with sora armitage because you are just wasting your drive
     
  20. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    actually no, your not waisting your drive,
    you don't know when its going to happen, but i personally love anti-form, its a challenge,
     
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