Abortion

But the fetus doesn't feel anything, because it never "turned" into a child. So you need not to worry about its "feelings".

Now, let's talk about the world in general. Abortion doesn't really affect the world. There are more babies born than they are aborted. So abortion doesn't really kill anyone.

Besides, it's the woman's decision. If she doesn't want the baby, then why should she even give birth? It's stupid and mean.

 

Well if she didn;t want a child, she should haven't of had sex, the people who end up getting abortion is teens who were stupid to have sex. It should become a punishment to have the child and for them to learn the responcibility out of sex.

Olus the women's choice, is pro choice.

 

Now how would you back up your little theory if I said "what about if the woman was raped"? So now I ask: What if the woman was raped?

The baby and the parents should not receive any kind of punishment.


And it's a fetus, it doesn't care. Because it's not alive.

 

Actually the fetus is alive, it doesn't think and stuff, but it's alive, and one day it would think like you are. Plus if she was raped, then they can have the child and put it up for adoption.

 

It's not alive.

Well, I didn't like being an orphan. In fact, I'm still emotionally affected.

 

Former abortion doctors have even said that they knew they were killing a living thing. So yes it's Alive.

Well your glade your alive, right? So be thankful for that.

 

Who says it can't understand? Just because it doesn't have an attention span? Just because it can't remember? There are plenty people who are like that. So are they basically just the same as a fetus?

Prove it. Fetus's are alive. Human cells are alive. A fetus is a collection of cells, just like us. So yes, the fetus is alive.

 

u dont get it, so I won't take this debate to that level of who's opinion is better because he was, and obviously you don't know enough about wrestling to make any argument against it. But the point remains the same. Hell, there have been a ton of abortions, so we may have killed the doctor who could've cured cancer. We could've killed a great artist, or a great athlete, or a possible President of the US.
Abortion is wrong.
Its killing a piece of our future.

 

Exactly. I say we force congress to ban abortion no matter who get's mad. I really don't care if the whole world is mad at me because of it, atleast I know I helped saved millions of lives.

 

But in the doing so you could also ruin many, Why should a woman have to suffer a baby if she doesn't or cant look after it. And to the point of we could be killing future doctors etc.. We could also be killing future criminals, rapist and so on, so therefore that point has no validation,

And to Mythril Roxas you are the one who cannot comprehend what I am saying!
If Ric Flair was never born, No one would have heard of him, he never would have been a wrestler, and therefore he would have had no influence on the wrestling community.

Use common sense and think it through.

 

Your point is only valid in the situation of rape, and in that case I agree with you, but there is also the obvious solution of adoption.

As for Ric Flair, its like this.
Someone (in this case... god) is thinking of making a 100 piece puzzle (lets say this puzzle is wrestling). He sends a request for the cardboard to make the pieces. But when he gets the cardboard, he notices a huge chunk is gone. That chunk wouldn't be there if Ric Flair's mom got an abortion. Get it yet?
Te puzzle maker could've still made the puzzle, but it would be missing 750 pieces. So it wouldn't be as good.
Ric Flair was SO important to the wrestling community its almost not funny. But to the average person, you wouldn't really understand everything he did.

 

God child your still missing the point! If Ric flair never existed sure in the terms you put it there would be a big chunk missing from wrestling, but it would make no difference to you or anybody else into wrestling. Think of it this way, If Tv was never invented, you would have never heard of it therefore it wouldn't matter to you, no do the same thing with Flair and wrestling.

 

I might as well throw in my two cents about what I see between your conversation. I'm guessing Mythril Roxas means that Wrestling wouldn't be as big as it is now without Ric Flair. Sure, it'd still be around, but it might not be as well known.

 

Yes, the fetus may be scientifically alive. But not theoretically.

And don't tell me a fetus can understand, that's stupid. If babies can't understand 99% of things, what makes you think such compilation of cells that hasn't even been formed into a human being will? Fetuses don't understand, that is pretty obvious.

And you might be preventing a great person from being born, but you are also preventing a lot of criminals and delinquents from being born. It's the same thing. However, another person who is actually born because his/her mother wanted it to be born, could have the qualities of that "prevented person".

It all comes down to one thing: If the woman doesn't want to give birth, why should she? It's her body, she should do whatever the fuck she wants.

 

But the fetus is it's own person. The fetus has the right to live and the mother does'nt have the right to take it's life. The pro-life community sees the fetus as a seperate being from the mother. Sure it depends on her for food but it is still it's own person. And thus should have all the rights that every other child does.

 

We don't know that 100%. There is a possibility that the fetus can understand things, even if it is only for a second.

She should give birth because she got pregnate.

And since she got pregnate, she loses the ability to do what she wants with her body. She is supporting another human life, so it's her responsibility to take care of it until it leaves her body.

Yeah, that last bit sounded heartless. But then again, I'm one who thinks that people shouldn't be allowed to get out of something they don't want happening. And then there'll be the argument of what I said not being fair. But then again, life's not fair.

 

Me and a whole lot of people believe fetuses can't understand things.

You see, we're both being selfish. However, I'm being selfish to a compilation of cells that hasn't lived not even one experience in life and does not have knowledge of anything. You're being selfish to a mother that might treat her child in a wrong way, or be irresponsible and give it away.

If she aborts, no one will have to suffer.

 

That's just belief though.

How is giving the child away irresponsible? It's alot more responsible than aborting the baby.

Actually, there have been plenty of women who have suffered emotionally after getting an abortion. So yes, the woman may suffer.

 

So is what you believe. However, mine theoretically isn't.

Not, not really...

That's very unlikely compared to the amount of woman who haven't suffered.

 

Why not adoption? Why not transfere the embryo to another woman? Why not give the baby to her parents or to the father?

Why have an abortion and kill a baby when there are other options that will allow the baby to live?