Abortion

I don't think that war has anything to do with abortion. If it does, then someone better tell me.

 

O'k I don't give a crap about over population. Do you want people to die? That's wrong, no one should want anyone to die. Opinion does not matter in the end, it's all about what is right or wrong. We need to prevent death so we can expand throughout the universe and continue our survival and live on through eternity.

How can any say abortion is right when it takes life. Taking the life of innocents will always be evil and anyone who thinks not is evil. Evil people should die not innocent babies.

If I became the ruler of the world, I would make choices that are right, the people's opinion matters not to me, as long as justice, righteousness, and good laws are made than that is all that matters. Justice matters not opinion.

 

Hmm, you are very passionate about the topic. I agree with your opinion but about the whole existence of humans is egh. We have a time, and it'll be done, so then what?

 

Humans are unique creatures, why should we allow ourselves to die? Why should we allow ourselves to share the same fate as the universe? Let's defy destiny and try to figure out a way to stop our bodies from dying, from growing old. Let's take control of the universe and stop it's dangers from destroying us so we can last forever.

If we start now we can do all this, i'm sure of it. But we have to stop the fighting and work together to accomplish this. I may not be alive to see it but if I can put the wheels into motion to make it start happening than I can die in peace. That's all I want.

 

Oh wow... Those ideas are kinda radical.

Okay, here's a question for you. Let's say there is somebody. He's completely innocent; never did a bad or immoral thing his whole life. If you had to kill him in order to save millions of other people, would you? Would you kill an innocent person just to save others?

But your view of justice is an opinion. Like it was shown in the Capital Punishment thread. Some think that it is justice to allow people to die on death row. Others think it isn't justice.

The way I see it, you can't defy destiny. No matter what choices I make in life, it is my destiny to make those choices. I can make whatever choices I want, but in the end I was destined to make those choices. And why would you want to not die. Sure, I'm scared of death. But not because of the actual death itself, but from what I think comes after death. But I don't want to not die.

Sadly, human nature prevents that from ever happening. It is human nature that people are selfish and greedy. Sure, there are some that aren't, but there are also many who are. They would prevent it from happening.

 

Defy destiny? Defy god's plan? I at first agreed with you demon, but now your starting to sound like Lucifer..........
No one can defy destiny.

 

1. The definition of right and wrong is solely opinion. So yes opinion is all that matters in the end.

2. Sorry but that wont happen. What goes up must come down. The fall, in our case is death. Its enivitable. You will die, i will die, its all the 'circle of life'.

3. How can you say abortion is wrong. Your not god(of the creator), so its not for you to decide. All your points are opinions, not fact. So stop stating that they are fact.

4. Lol, if you were to rule the world it would be a dreadful place. Opinions don't matter to you? Only justice? Justice IS OPINION! And if you were to 'rule the world in your way' (lol, that just sounds soo silly) people would revolt and probably kill you, stopping your chance of defying the universe, because if that one person. Probably a politician of mob leader doesn't get his way. You'll die.

You should get it out of you head that what you say is right, because its not right. What you think isn't justice. Its your opinion. As my opinion is mine. You can't tell us our opinion is wrong, as its our opinion and you wont change that.

 

but mostly his heart is in a good place kupo. Liberalism is essentially "evil", its godless and moraless. Freedom comes with responsibility, and when the wrong people are given that gift of freedom they forget their responsibility, and thats how the system of Capitalism is corrupted. So, we need to go and jail these people on wall street that are ruining out country. I would really respect Obama if he could do that. Just throw 'em all in jail....

 

Wow, Demon of Darkness is very persistent in this subject. Though, abortion is killing. I don't see why it isn't. This may sound as fact, but you are stopping the kid to grow and know the world. That is basically my reason to abolish 'abortion'. On many ocasions, when women get rapped is because they look for it.

Do you think it's 'ok' to a woman be alone in the streets? The chances of that woman get rapped are high, and since we live in a world of violence and unjustice.. it gets higher, and higher.

Also, for young teenagers.. their isn't a excuse to get abortion, simple because it was an accident on having sex with the boy. It's their problem and they had the baby, so they really don't have any right to kill it.. though that's what I believe.

So in the end, these young women get their consecuences and they have to face it.

 

Some of you are so damn liberal. Opinion is all that matters? No, only justice matters and just is not opinion. We know murder is wrong, this is fact not opinion. And murderers are evil so they should die, that is true justice. Evil must be destroyed and Good must triumph, that is what matters.

I don't want to defy God, just allow humans to live until the end of the world happens. I don't want to die because i'll miss being human, I like living so it's not wrong for me to want to live until the end of the world.

Some of you say that good people should die, that abortion is right, and you call this justice. I'm sorry but Justice is about punishing evil and saving good people.

Anyone who get's an abortion is evil and I do not consider them to be human. They are worthless scum that should die. They must pay for killing their baby, and they can only pay for their crime by death. An eye for an eye, my friends.

 

Their shoudn't be kill for kill. You don't know if the women regrets the abortion and changes her view towards abortion, as a murder.

 

But she still comited murder and should be punished. If not by murder than by torture and humiliation. Blood can only be repaid by blood.

 

Demon, this is not justice whatsoever. Can't you just say that is a way to take her in prison? Torture and Humiliation won't do anything.

 

Prison, where she can get a bed, food, and such. That's not punishment. She's a muderer and such she is less than shit and should be treated as such.

I don't consider murderers to be human.

 

As far as I can see, you are talkign as a cruel ruler. Everyone has a chance to change, you cannot simple just torture or kill the person for using abortion. True, it's a murder... but there are certain punishments.

 

No, evil is evil. I will not give the woman the chance to have another abortion, I wont do it.

When does that baby get justice? If I just send her to jail than that is'nt fair to the baby.

If my mother aborted me than as a spirit I would remain on earth and do everything to make her life a living hell because I would hate her and hope she died and went to hell. All evil people should die, evil can't change.

I care about people who are good, righteous and have good morals. Those people deserve to have everything and evil people are worthless.

 

I'm not a liberal. Trust me. I'm just not.

In your opinion. I understand you you see it that way. But that's your view on justice. I'll use my example again, just for the heck of it. Some see Capital Punishment as justice. Others don't. We can't say what truly is or isn't justice. It's just beyond the reach of human intellect.

But is it your right to make them pay?

By doing torture and humiliation, that makes you worse than the person who got the abortion. An eye for an eye is one thing, but torture and humiliation is more than the eye.

The baby gets justice when the mother finally dies. Since you believe in God, I'm sure this bit will help you understand a little. When everybody dies, I believe that God judges each of them. They will recieve actual justice then. So who are we to decide what is justice?

But you yourself would be evil. Hate is evil. Wanting people to go to Hell is evil. So if you were like that, you'd just be worse than the mother.

But from what you've said, you make is sound like you're an evil person. I know that your reasons are meant for good, but the reasons themselves are evil.

 

But why don't they get justice in this life? They should be punished immediatly.

If a girl I knew got an abortion I would make her pay myself. I am just so sick and tired of all the evil and injustice in the world, it just makes me so angry. I feel like I am the only one that cares about the baby, I care about their rights and making the mother pay. Why does'nt God just end it so I don't have to feel this constant anger? When will I get to see all the bad people suffer for what they did? When will the babies get to look at their mothers and say, "It's time you suffer you worthless bitch"? When? How long will this go unpunished? Someone has to put a stop to it.

 

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LISTEN TO YOURSELF, YOY'RE SOUNDING LIKE SOME SORT OF HELL-BENT VIGILANTE AND IT NEEDS TO STOP. Yes, we all agree on stopping abortion, but people should be put in prison for a murder that in this case, is "perfectly legal".

 

But he is right though. This has to stop, people can't just go around doing whatever they want and think it's right. Mabey if we were harder on our punishments than people would be scared to do bad things. I think Demon just wants the world to be more moraly based and he is willing to make the world like that through any way possible.

Honestly though prison is not a punishment, you get a bed, food, free medical care. That's not a punishment. My father does'nt even have free medical care and he is a veteran. Why does a murderer in prison get free healtcare and my dad who fought for this country does'nt get free healthcare. You tell me how that is justice?

Mabey we should try Demon's way of doing things, his way might work. Sure there would be more rules and such but if you follow those rules then you have nothing to worry about and you can live your life in peace. While the monsters like mothers who abort there babies, terrorist, and bad people get treated like what the monsters they are. Demon's way might just work cause the way the world is being run right now sure is'nt working so if Demon's way might.