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Obama or Mccain

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by noir07, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Sephiroth if we went by your way, the world would go all to hell faster then what it is. I actually care about the entire human race. I want the human race to continue on a moral, good, righteous path. You act like as long as America is safe then the rest of the world can rot. That is messed up.
     
  2. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    So your the type who would shed blood for peace?

    In my opinion that is very contradictory (I think thats a word).



    What Obama wants to do is talk and attain peace, no blood shed.
     
  3. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Peace cannot be obtained through talk. Peace can only be obtained when the righteous and just destroy the evil ones. When we have completely erradicated the terrorist then we will be one giant step closer to peace.
     
  4. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    War cannot bring peace, if it could I'm sure 'Jesus' would have been 300 foot tall and had a flamethrower.
     
  5. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Perhaps you don't realise this but osama bin laden is evil. He is a monster that must be wiped from existence, the same goes for all terrorist. Talking to them will only get more people killed. I'm not going to talk to evil, i'm going to destroy it.
     
  6. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    The thing is, terrorists have the exact same opinion of you as you have of them, you are just going to wipe each other out and thousands even millions of lives may be lost.

    Obama is trying to prevent that.
     
  7. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Good will triumph over evil in the end and people like me are going to be made kings. You just beleive that everyone is good and there is no evil. If someone murders another then the murderer does'nt have the right to live because he is evil and evil does'nt have the right to exist.
     
  8. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    Palin is not a good VP. She doesn't know what she is thinking!!!!
     
  9. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    That is exactly what the terrorists feel about you, it will just become an all out war until one of you is victorious, imagine the lives lost on both sides because of that.

    Talking is the most logical way in my opinion.
     
  10. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    But the terrorist are Evil. I'm trying to bring peace, they are trying to bring terror. That's the difference. That's what makes me on the side of good and them on the side of evil.

    Don't you want to destory evil?
     
  11. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    They say the exact same thing about you, they are also fighting for peace as they feel America is the evil in the world.
     
  12. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Wait a minute, uou got me wrong. I don't support America either. I support justice.
     
  13. Fireflame

    Fireflame New Member

    Okay let me state my opinion about each of your "wrongs"

    1. He supports abortion and I don't agree with him on this, I think adoption is a more reasonable solution than abortion. But If the mother is going to actually die during child birth then I'd halfheartedly agree with abortion

    2. I don't remember all the details about his plan right now, but I do remember that it sounded like a really good plan that will actually help the economy

    3 and 4. This war should never have started anyway. And the terrorists attacking us was our fault, we trained some of the terrorists. And if Obama talks to them(not bush) then then they might be more willing to listen to peace perms. And fighting and killing for peace seems very contradictory

    5. On the contrary, he seems more knowledgeable than a lot of people
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2009
  14. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    So what are we supposed to do, just let all the people who have died because of the terrorist die in vain. Their deaths must be avenged.
     
  15. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    If I killed you would you want your mother to kill me?
     
  16. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Yes. You murdered me for no reason. You should be punished. I'm not just gonna let you get away with murder, you must pay for your crimes.

    If someone murder your mom would'nt you kill the murderer? Did'nt you care about your mother's life? Don't you want justice?
     
  17. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    No, I would find the murderer and have that person put in jail for life. You would like your mother to go to prison to avenge your death? That is extremely selfish...
     
  18. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    You murdered me for no reason. My mom is getting justice. You will suffer the same fate that you gave me. That is fair. If you kill me then you deserve to die also. If I murdered someone then I deserve to die.

    But if you murder to protect yourself or others then that is a just reason.
     
  19. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    That viewpoint is the real evil, selfish people such as yourself are the downfall of this world, they feel revenge is just...
     
  20. demon of darkness

    demon of darkness New Member

    Would you not be angry at the one who takes your mothers life? Our punishments in this country are not strict enough. This is how I would set punishments up.


    Crimes
    ----------------------
    1. Murder
    2. Abortion
    3. Stealing
    4. Disturbance of peace
    5. Mass Murder
    6. Discremination
    7. Abuse

    Punishment
    -----------------------
    1. Death
    2. Death
    3. A fine worth the cost of what was stolen
    4. Humiliation and a fine of 10,000 dollars
    5. Humilation, Torture, and then death
    6. A fine of 10,000 dollars
    7. Death
    -----------------------------------------------------

    The worst the punishment the less likely people will break the rules and the good righteous and Just people live in peace. They are the only one who deserve it.
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2009

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